Commando Archive

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built2shred wrote:

Sorry Hedd but ALL the healing classes need some sort of control on the healing right now. People can heal faster then the damge being applied to them. Thats why you will see battles last for hours. Although this does hurt Commandos, this could easily be fixed if the Dev's would incrase our Defense so we can live longer

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Actually, as it stands right now I have seen people who have medics and or docs focused on healing them drop in under 5 seconds under a coordinated attack (I have also been one of the people dropped even though I have many people healing me). For unorganized pvp and dueling, yeah, healing is unbalanced but for mass pvp it's just about right. Tactics and strategy carry the day not one or two people capable of high damage output and no teamwork skills.

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Tunturi wrote:

For unorganized pvp and dueling, yeah, healing is unbalanced but for mass pvp it's just about right

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A healer should not be able to heal your damage faster then two or more people of the same lvl attacking you. This really screws up the BH's vs Jedi's balance.

If you drop in under 5 secs now when being attcked by several people then it wont really matter if they lower the healing abilities. 5 secs or 2 secs . but it will make a huge difference to BH's vs Jedi situation.

I think the biggest problem is groups of 8 think 1 healer should be able to keep them alive under heavy attack.

none the less ill run some test with my friends to see how long a Master CM/Doc can keep me alive when being attacked by several people. As it is right now a person with CM 4000 can keep a person alive while he's being attcked by couple turrents without breaking a sweet. And turrents are suppoe to hit pretty hard.. So that alone tells me healing is way out of whack..

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First off: I apologise for the tone of this message before hand. Been pvping back and forth for 5 hours with 50-80 people total so my adrenaline is quite high.

If it's a choice between the BH's vs Jedi's balance and the mass pvp of the GCW, the GCW should win without a seconds discussion. The difference between 2 and 5 seconds is a lot in mass pvp (that's probably about how long everyone is lagging). It gives you time to react and shift positioning to compensate. Turrets hit for a flat 500 per hit and shoot every second or two (I think). They're not intended to be the sole base defense but something that will assist the fighters outside the base since they never have to worry about not attacking to focus on defensive movements.

Now, I could just barely be persuaded to agree that CM AoE healing is too powerful, but single target healing is not. The thing with healing is that for it to be useful in group pvp it must be overwhelming in individual pvp. If that's not the case then the first time someone puts to gether a full 8 man group of AoE specialists they will reign over the battlefields since damage couldn't be healed fast enough to counter their damage output (that would make commando very appealing for that purpose though )

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Rildovec wrote:

First off: I apologise for the tone of this message before hand. Been pvping back and forth for 5 hours with 50-80 people total so my adrenaline is quite high.

If it's a choice between the BH's vs Jedi's balance and the mass pvp of the GCW, the GCW should win without a seconds discussion. The difference between 2 and 5 seconds is a lot in mass pvp (that's probably about how long everyone is lagging). It gives you time to react and shift positioning to compensate. Turrets hit for a flat 500 per hit and shoot every second or two (I think). They're not intended to be the sole base defense but something that will assist the fighters outside the base since they never have to worry about not attacking to focus on defensive movements.

Now, I could just barely be persuaded to agree that CM AoE healing is too powerful, but single target healing is not. The thing with healing is that for it to be useful in group pvp it must be overwhelming in individual pvp. If that's not the case then the first time someone puts to gether a full 8 man group of AoE specialists they will reign over the battlefields since damage couldn't be healed fast enough to counter their damage output (that would make commando very appealing for that purpose though )

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If the Commando AOE's actually worked.

Well hopefully this will apply to Jedi, cause they heal just as easy as any Doc or CM.

Healing is way over the top, and Doc and CM are FOTMs. I'm glad this is happening. And yes I'm a basic Medic.

Only problem is we need our SAc brought down badly. I realized how bad it was in the Avatar Station with my 4 man squad. None of us were Jedi by the way. Anyways the 4 of us got through the Station Succesfully and we never died, at least not until the end when we just wanted to get out. Actually I didn't die though and I was able to run out, just with an Incap along the way.

I was suppose to be Crowd Control, but the PFT just wore me out to fast and I had to give it up sadly.
Seriously SAC needs to be looked at. I'm starting to see how much of a handicap it is now that I've had to fight some masses of tough enemies.

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Wild__Bill wrote:

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Rildovec wrote:

First off: I apologise for the tone of this message before hand. Been pvping back and forth for 5 hours with 50-80 people total so my adrenaline is quite high.

If it's a choice between the BH's vs Jedi's balance and the mass pvp of the GCW, the GCW should win without a seconds discussion. The difference between 2 and 5 seconds is a lot in mass pvp (that's probably about how long everyone is lagging). It gives you time to react and shift positioning to compensate. Turrets hit for a flat 500 per hit and shoot every second or two (I think). They're not intended to be the sole base defense but something that will assist the fighters outside the base since they never have to worry about not attacking to focus on defensive movements.

Now, I could just barely be persuaded to agree that CM AoE healing is too powerful, but single target healing is not. The thing with healing is that for it to be useful in group pvp it must be overwhelming in individual pvp. If that's not the case then the first time someone puts to gether a full 8 man group of AoE specialists they will reign over the battlefields since damage couldn't be healed fast enough to counter their damage output (that would make commando very appealing for that purpose though )

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If the Commando AOE's actually worked.

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Yeah, sometimes I find myself thinking grandiose thoughts about a commando setup and forget that crucial flaw.

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jmonty wrote:
food action buffs don't help enough?

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No.

KD recovery costs 25 percent.

Average Commando weapon takes about 18-22 percent

Add in heals? One "tired" Commando....

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MsNiL wrote:

Healers dont need action at all.

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So basicaly, either you are a MCM/Mdoc or not a healer?

That's like jedi whining that BH's have CM 4/0/0/0, when ther have healing 4/0/0/0 ......

Anti-Commando?

More like Anti-Solo

Anti-Healer+Dmg Dealer

PRo-Pick Your Template and Know Your Roll.....

Message Edited by Reydon on 10-15-2005 08:05 PM