Commando Archive
Thread: Petition: Give us an Outline of the CU Docs
Nicko_
Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:11 pm
#14
Well...
/sign
At least it's something to do while waiting for SOME CLUES!!!!!
/sign
At least it's something to do while waiting for SOME CLUES!!!!!
TKA-MC
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:22 pm
#15
Also as an after thought. There is a Difference between Patience and Accepting one's situation. Patience is: the Commando Community, the CH community and quite a few others. Acceptence is: A battered Wife, or the "popular" guy in Prison block C. I refuse to Accept any further explinations as to way no word is given or why none has been forth comming. Who's with me! Can I GET A WHITTNESS! <spelling?
StarNick
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:27 pm
#16
why dont we have garvin start a petition for the devs to pay attention to our petition?
You guys have made me tempted to start up a questionaire thread asking why the devs haven't given an outline or something yet, and how the communities are being restless...been very tempted to directly ask them that....but I think thats more of Garvin's thing...plus he and others on the correspondant forums prolly have already asked/begged/etc.
LuciusScipio
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:04 pm
#17
StarNick wrote:
why dont we have garvin start a petition for the devs to pay attention to our petition?
You guys have made me tempted to start up a questionaire thread asking why the devs haven't given an outline or something yet, and how the communities are being restless...been very tempted to directly ask them that....but I think thats more of Garvin's thing...plus he and others on the correspondant forums prolly have already asked/begged/etc.
Still, that wouldn't hurt at all...and it's a GREAT idea!...Why not do it? Garvin has probably been told reasons why it's not out but it's all probably under the NDA so the poor guy can't really communicate it to us me thinks...So, why not get something going....A questionaire thread would be nice...I'm not creative or smart enough to start one so I'll just contribute and try to help all I can. 
StarNick
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:17 pm
#18
Well I was refering it to be on the CU forums, but I would be bound under an NDA too if they actually told us a real reason heh...
Dang devs...
LuciusScipio
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:30 pm
#19
Ok, I see where you are coming from. My bad...yea, dang devs...
nbd9k
Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:41 pm
#21
Lets look at the situation here. we are all vocal about our curiosity. infact, all of the forums are. but we produce no results. the last thing we got results on was complaining so much about the HAR that they fixed our stat points for use... for all the good it did.
we dont need the CU documents. Im not even sure its what we really want, either.
i think what we want is the ability to make a comment, have a nice little response from one DEV or another, and see it implemented in the game. thats what made the beta for JTL so great.
even if the majority of our suggustions are a little over the top sometimes, it would be nice to even be shot down by a DEV.
thats what i think we truely want- more DEV interaction.
Garvin's good. hes the best correspondant out there. but do you ever get the feeling that the DEVs arent really paying attention to the correspondants either? i certainly do. it worries me.
StarNick
Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:25 pm
#22
Worries me most definately....ever since the sandbox testers have seen the CURB documents...I guess we're all a bit worried atm...albeit optimistic...
The devs didnt really listen to alot of concerns in the original SWG beta...some things were not listened to in the JTL beta (maybe listened to, but not FIXED until well after release...the speed of the devs is what Im most worried about)
But...they were all Betas...not Alphas...as long as we're in there testing...we have an excellent shotat being heard fully and wholly...and making a difference, which will hopefully get combat finally balanced, fixed, and DONE.
Theresa lot at stake with this...but all of us are committed...and as long as the flaming lords of lag still stand...we're gonna do our job!
LuciusScipio
Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:09 am
#23
StarNick wrote:
Worries me most definately....ever since the sandbox testers have seen the CURB documents...I guess we're all a bit worried atm...albeit optimistic...
The devs didnt really listen to alot of concerns in the original SWG beta...some things were not listened to in the JTL beta (maybe listened to, but not FIXED until well after release...the speed of the devs is what Im most worried about)
But...they were all Betas...not Alphas...as long as we're in there testing...we have an excellent shotat being heard fully and wholly...and making a difference, which will hopefully get combat finally balanced, fixed, and DONE.
Theresa lot at stake with this...but all of us are committed...and as long as the flaming lords of lag still stand...we're gonna do our job!
Well, they structured the Sandbox in a way that should force them to listen to you guys...if they don't, then they are gonna suffer a serious backlash...and I mean, really serious. They didn't listen to us testers during the origional Beta or during JTL...but this setting would take the cake. My guess is that they will (mostly) listen this time around if they want a future for SWG's.
Skeptic666
Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:19 am
#24
No its because the docs change. They are not going to put the docs to the public till they have it set. The sandbox testers are going to test the new things and hopefully get the docs changed to help balance things out. As of now they will not post the docs because more then likely there will be changes. And then every one woudl say what the heck is this this is not what the docs originaly said. There for no ruf drafts or any thing. Seing how once we get done and open beta starts thing may still change depending how peopel find exploits or any thing else that may happen. I can't say when they will hit public but im pretty sure in my own mind that it will not be untill after the sand box has been up for at least a week. And no clue yet when sand box will open. But hey right now the docs are looking pretty dang good. The more they add the more I have been smiling to read them
nbd9k
Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 am
#25
ok, then lets reformat. sure, theyre making smaller changes about how this or that is going to work, but the big stuff has to remain the same, and even most of the detail stuff. im sure theres a level at which they could release documentation that would appease our curiosity, and not have them promising something they dont deliver (which i think is their concern)
StarNick
Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:23 pm
#26
Well with Alpha testing...they sorta HAVE to listen to us heh...and since its so closed and such a very select community...its much easier to work with.
Every correspondant has a job, every correspondant team tester has a job. Theres only 5-7 (depending on blue glowies) testers per team...around 16 combat profs? (eh, never did remember the number). In terms of testing, thats a far easier crowd to work with than thousands of ppl signing up for free testing and flaming the devs on the testing forums 
In a way I guess...its a step up from the standard Beta testing they've been doing...with the commitment of all the testers, the quality could very well be at the level of paid Testers...or more...
Hmm...maybe we should petition to get paid...! 
I got a gut feeling the devs are sincere this time...but Im still skeptical...
Oh...and I dont believe I said this in my previous post...but I did put up the question of why not release an outline...since the responses and reasons (well not they were any different from reasons given to us by garvin or official dev responses) are behind closed doors...Lets just say, it was shot down and blown up. The devs will take the Documents to their graves before releasing an outline or the actual documents to the public. Sorry guys, gotta wait till the CURB Beta 