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Thread: This is tough....
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Nicko_
Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:28 pm
#14
I don't know you.
But... Well, luck.
May happen what should, and may it not be what near sighted people want to see.
But... Well, luck.
May happen what should, and may it not be what near sighted people want to see.
StarNick
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:24 pm
#15
Now this is a thread one rarely sees. Braven, wow...everyone included...all I can think to typeis simply wow! All your stories are really incredible, and its amazing how many commandos are former or current military men (mostly marines it seems as well!), I'm no military man and prolly never will be - but I love this country, and I'm dang proud of all our armed forces to boot. Truely, Im honored to be with you all.
And today, the commando community has really shined...and most definately takes up the rank of "Best Community" on this side of the galaxy 
To me, the best and most loved community Ive ever partaken in...truely an online band of brothers.
To me, the best and most loved community Ive ever partaken in...truely an online band of brothers.Lastly, Braven...I hope things work out in the end...and its wonderful that we all have had a positive impact in your life
Warmaker01
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:26 pm
#16
Argh, I just reread his posts again... I misunderstood about the discharge...
Nevertheless, most of what I put down I believe can relate a little to how he felt.
Nevertheless, most of what I put down I believe can relate a little to how he felt.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
LuciusScipio
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:56 pm
#17
Heya Braven,
I'm REALLY glad that you got home and that things went so well. WOOOHOOO!!!!! Well, I read your post and I'm sorry to hear that you've had such a difficult time adjusting to regular civilian life.I'm so glad that your family was there for you today. Man, I don't think that it matters so much that you didn't behavewell or perfect when you did what you did...what masters the most is that your family was there for you and that you have their support...and the support of some online amigos as well...and that you can now start to finally put thisugly wartything behind you...and go on to have a great & wonderful life...I'm glad that you are back home and OK bro!!!! Now flame away at that sandbox! hehe.
Side Note: I remember that several years ago, the DOJ released a study indicating that a large number of ex-military folks undergo adifficult adjustment period after leaving the military...especially when they served under stressful times and/or were part of the military for a lengthy period. The four military branches should really assistt people during the transition process (after discharge & with stuff like financial consulting, counseling, VA benefits orientation, etc.) since it canoften be a dramatic change. We're just flesh and bones after all.
Cpl_Fisher
Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:29 pm
#18
BravenIrish on one hand I'm glad things turned out, 
On the other hand my buddies and I don't to do a jailbreak. 
.
. LOL J/K
Although a jailbreak would have been fun......
Anyway, my grandfather once gave me this piece of advice, if you aren't willing to die for something, then its not worth fighting for. He also said that a lost cause is the only one worth fighting for to. Maybe when I'm 80, I will have the wisdom to know what he means.
Glad to see everything turned out ok for ya, now if only my romemate will stop looking at me wierd for breaking out all my old gear last night.....
edited because it posted before I was finished
Message Edited by Cpl_Fisher on 11-23-2004 09:31 PM
BravenIrish
Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:41 pm
#19
Cpl_Fisher wrote:
He also said that a lost cause is the only one worth fighting for
Because if all seems lost, most give up, and it will be lost. But as long as ONE has the cause in his heart...it will never be lost.
You grabbed yer gear Corpral? One time in boot camp (no flute ref here guys..LMAO), I was at the rifle range. We were ordered to stand up. I stood at attention! We were ordered to remove our cantines. I removed my cantne! We were ordered to remove the caps. I removed my freakin cover!!!
Payed dearly as well!
Sláinte
Cpl_Fisher
Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:31 pm
#20
BravenIrish wrote:
Cpl_Fisher wrote:
He also said that a lost cause is the only one worth fighting for
Because if all seems lost, most give up, and it will be lost. But as long as ONE has the cause in his heart...it will never be lost.
You grabbed yer gear Corpral? One time in boot camp (no flute ref here guys..LMAO), I was at the rifle range. We were ordered to stand up. I stood at attention! We were ordered to remove our cantines. I removed my cantne! We were ordered to remove the caps. I removed my freakin cover!!!
Payed dearly as well!
Sláinte
i never got in much trouble in boot, but one time when i was stationed in Pensacola, my buddy and I were fishing behind the AE schoolhouse in the boatslip, we weren't supoosed to be fishing there so when an Mp rolled by we scrambled to hide our gear from view. Of course he saw us hiding something, so he pulled over, he stolles up and asked to see our ID's, np we hand them over, he seemed really intent on our Birthday, and then shined his light on some beer bottles that were lying around(not ours they had been there when we came out) he then accuse us of drinking underage. I didn't get in trouble for underage drinking (fingerprints showed that), but my responsed to being unjustly accused had me standing at attention in my Alphas for 9 straight hours while SNCO's took turns chewing me out over my response to being unjustly accused..... 
Oh yea, I grabbed my gear, thinking It would be fun to do a jailbreak, while my roomemate muttered things about Crazy Marines, and about me not being in the Corps anymore....
eh, ever since I started picking up commando skills I seem to b reverting back....
SuperTrando
Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:49 pm
#22
Best to you and all, but if you do have to go to jail I've already devised a plan. The tank is prepped and waiting to be tested.
On a serious note though hope it all goes well.
On a serious note though hope it all goes well.
Ryubushi
Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:02 am
#23
SuperTrando wrote:
Best to you and all, but if you do have to go to jail I've already devised a plan. The tank is prepped and waiting to be tested.
Would any other community offer support to the point of breaking you out of a prison cell?
I think not!
But we're glad to see you're still with us, Braven, andI'm glad everything worked out in your favor. We'd hate to lose you around here; it just wouldn't be quiet the same.
/salute
TK-132
Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:07 am
#24
It's good to see everything worked out ok. I was concerned earlier so I was unsure of what to say. It's a relief to know things worked out.
Warmaker01
Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:59 am
#25
BravenIrish,
I won't prod into exactly what got you into trouble.
But you made mention of a "partial DD214." Does that mean that you're getting forced out definitely? If so, I hope the discharge is decent enough, but I sincerely hope you get some sort of chance to stay in.
Also, I hear you on the feeling of belonging to something, it's something that I experienced myself.
I joined up with the USMC in 1993, did my 6-year contract (the now extinct QEP program), and got out at 1999. I still remember that eerie final day... My last duty station was in Texas... I vividly recall going to admin, submitting my records, signing the last portion of my DD214, and receiving my Terminal Leave Orders. The admin. Corporal then said,"Take it easy Sergeant, good luck out there!"
I dropped by my command one last time to say goodbye to some good friends of mine, many of them buddies from "The Rock."
Drove out with my car full of cr@p the next day to go back home in California... I was really worried my little 'ol Mazda Protege was not going to make it in Arizona & New Mexico,
Anyways, while I was out I was enjoying my newly regained freedoms and going to College. I was doing okay in school, roughly a B-average student. But after 2 months, I really, really began to miss the Corps. It was something that I've grown to live in, with the good & bad. But worst of all, I missed my buddies, my Marines back in my old commands. I remember even breaking down and called them up to see what was up. Nothing different, same as usual, Gunny's pissed as always!
I still did some weird things when I was out... I fought hard to stop using military time. No, it's 2pm, not 1400. My efforts to suppress Marine/Navy terminology was successful most of the time. Every now and then I slipped and said something like bulkhead, ladderwell, p-way, head, etc., you know them all, lol. Most of all, I fought hard to stop my casual cursing.
I would have come back to the Corps after 2-3 months, but one thing kept me out... a nice girl I met at school. To cut the dreadful details, she dumped my a$$ after I was out 10 months. With her gone, I really had no reason to stay a Civvie anymore.
What did I do? I went to the same Marine Recruiting Office that I went to when I was 17 years old. Only now, then at 2000, I was 25 years old with 6-years under my belt with the green machine. My old primary MOS was 6336 (KC-130 Electrician... Hercs, baby!) and my secondary MOS was 8531, Marksmanship Instructor (got it on The Rock, at Camp Hansen). The SSgt in the office was somewhat surprised to see me and my stack of photocopies of my service/medical/dental records. Visitors like me were rare, especially before Sep.11, 2001.
So, the recruiter put together the paperwork I needed to send to Headquarters Marine Corps. I was worried that I was going to lose my rank of Sergeant. The Staff Sergeant also said, though he was uncertain, that I was gone for quite a while, about a year... I may have to go to Boot Camp all over again... D'OH! Nevertheless, I didn't care... I wanted back in and be surrounded by Gyrenes again. Plus, I've done my little time in MCRD San Diego already, so what's one more run through it? Their mindgames won't work on me, anymore!
But in the end, HQMC accepted my paperwork, and I was allowed to retain my rank. I didn't have to make a "Boot Camp II: The Sequel" movie, starring my dumbass. The only thing I didn't get from my request was to become an M1 Abrams tanker, something quite different from being an "Air Wing Marine." Unfortunately, my Aviation Electrician background kept me from that... Electricians were in need in the aviation community, so I opted for being an F/A-18 Hornet Electrician (now 6337) from the choices given to me.
Much of what I typed here probably may be useless, but understand that I know the feeling of missing that "sense of belonging."
As I said at the beginning of this reply, I hope I misunderstood your posts and I also hope that you do get your chance to stay in the Corps.
If it really does come to a forced discharge, then I really wish you the best of luck out there. Regardless of what happens,"ONCE A MARINE, ALWAYS A MARINE."
Semper Fidelis
I won't prod into exactly what got you into trouble.
But you made mention of a "partial DD214." Does that mean that you're getting forced out definitely? If so, I hope the discharge is decent enough, but I sincerely hope you get some sort of chance to stay in.
Also, I hear you on the feeling of belonging to something, it's something that I experienced myself.
I joined up with the USMC in 1993, did my 6-year contract (the now extinct QEP program), and got out at 1999. I still remember that eerie final day... My last duty station was in Texas... I vividly recall going to admin, submitting my records, signing the last portion of my DD214, and receiving my Terminal Leave Orders. The admin. Corporal then said,"Take it easy Sergeant, good luck out there!"
I dropped by my command one last time to say goodbye to some good friends of mine, many of them buddies from "The Rock."
Drove out with my car full of cr@p the next day to go back home in California... I was really worried my little 'ol Mazda Protege was not going to make it in Arizona & New Mexico,
Anyways, while I was out I was enjoying my newly regained freedoms and going to College. I was doing okay in school, roughly a B-average student. But after 2 months, I really, really began to miss the Corps. It was something that I've grown to live in, with the good & bad. But worst of all, I missed my buddies, my Marines back in my old commands. I remember even breaking down and called them up to see what was up. Nothing different, same as usual, Gunny's pissed as always!
I still did some weird things when I was out... I fought hard to stop using military time. No, it's 2pm, not 1400. My efforts to suppress Marine/Navy terminology was successful most of the time. Every now and then I slipped and said something like bulkhead, ladderwell, p-way, head, etc., you know them all, lol. Most of all, I fought hard to stop my casual cursing.
I would have come back to the Corps after 2-3 months, but one thing kept me out... a nice girl I met at school. To cut the dreadful details, she dumped my a$$ after I was out 10 months. With her gone, I really had no reason to stay a Civvie anymore.
What did I do? I went to the same Marine Recruiting Office that I went to when I was 17 years old. Only now, then at 2000, I was 25 years old with 6-years under my belt with the green machine. My old primary MOS was 6336 (KC-130 Electrician... Hercs, baby!) and my secondary MOS was 8531, Marksmanship Instructor (got it on The Rock, at Camp Hansen). The SSgt in the office was somewhat surprised to see me and my stack of photocopies of my service/medical/dental records. Visitors like me were rare, especially before Sep.11, 2001.
So, the recruiter put together the paperwork I needed to send to Headquarters Marine Corps. I was worried that I was going to lose my rank of Sergeant. The Staff Sergeant also said, though he was uncertain, that I was gone for quite a while, about a year... I may have to go to Boot Camp all over again... D'OH! Nevertheless, I didn't care... I wanted back in and be surrounded by Gyrenes again. Plus, I've done my little time in MCRD San Diego already, so what's one more run through it? Their mindgames won't work on me, anymore!
But in the end, HQMC accepted my paperwork, and I was allowed to retain my rank. I didn't have to make a "Boot Camp II: The Sequel" movie, starring my dumbass. The only thing I didn't get from my request was to become an M1 Abrams tanker, something quite different from being an "Air Wing Marine." Unfortunately, my Aviation Electrician background kept me from that... Electricians were in need in the aviation community, so I opted for being an F/A-18 Hornet Electrician (now 6337) from the choices given to me.
Much of what I typed here probably may be useless, but understand that I know the feeling of missing that "sense of belonging."
As I said at the beginning of this reply, I hope I misunderstood your posts and I also hope that you do get your chance to stay in the Corps.
If it really does come to a forced discharge, then I really wish you the best of luck out there. Regardless of what happens,"ONCE A MARINE, ALWAYS A MARINE."
Semper Fidelis
Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 11-23-2004 01:04 PM
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