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Thread: Commando or Bounty Hunter

CarlTheWookie
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:34 pm
#14

Commando gives you alot of flexibilty to try other non-combat or combat-support professions.


But with BH, you get some serious light and heavy weaponry skills.


The main reason I dropped MBH to go commando is that I liked the flexiblity of damage types through-out the heavy weapons line. Saddly, they are mostly fubared now. Also, I had the skill points to master smuggler.


Personally, commando is a blast (pun inteneded) until a nuna comes up and whacks you for 200pts damage. You learn to be much more tactical in your approach. As BH, its fireknockdown, eyeshot, LLC2 LLC2 LLC2. Done.


My first day as a commando, I had great fun roasting dalyrakes until one suck past the GIANT BALL OF FLAME I was shooting at it and incapped in in 2 hits. I'd never had that happen before. Since then, I do more thinking, less rushing.




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AlufNull
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:05 pm
#15

It is going to depend on your playstyle. Do you want your character to be more pvp or pve? Also, are you going to be getting the master title and how many pts will you have to use elswhere to augment your commando skills.


Be more specific and we can be more helpful.





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ExceededGoku
Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:50 am
#16

ive been both,Commando is way better...full stop most aspects
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-NOS-
Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:21 pm
#17

if you want to be good at this game and kill hella ppl in both pvp and pve become a BH. I started as a commando, which sucked royal (started b4 patch, ended a month after), then I switched to BH and suddenly I OWNED pvp, soloing 2-5 ppl at one time and enjoying the game. Unfortunatly that all ended when my holocron forked me. *kicks holocron in head
Meh, doctor isnt all that bad





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Erik-TKM
Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:23 pm
#18

i used to be a bounty hunter but now i am a commando, first of all u only save 44 skills points by going commando over bounty hunter. also all commando special moves have a 8 second delay timer, on the other hand a bounty hunter can fire off lightning single 2 almost every second which does almost the same damage as flame single 2, but we commandos have to wait 8 seconds untill we can do anything or fire again. dont ask me why bh's get better heavy weapon skills then us but you know swg, pamper the 50% of the players who are all bounty hunting noobs, i hate bounty hunter which is the only reason i am not one, honestly bounty hunter is the better profession by FAR, firekd does 400 damage plus fire damage, plus knockdown, and they have eyeshot, dizzy, blind and so much more. they can kill anyone anytime with ease. all the commando has is a pretty fire effect which he can do within 16meters once evry 8 seconds. we have no knockdowns, no status effects besides fire, bounty hunter has everything we have plus about 500% more. all weapons besides HAR and flamethrower are charged and cost 20k-60k for about 30 charges. we are helpless if our enemy is outside the range of 16 meters, a bh on the other hand can kill form any range. for only 44 more skill points. not to mention a krayt scatter pisol can have a damage of almost 500, ive been killed with 2 eyeshot............
guinnis
Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:38 am
#19

IM a BH i have never seen a kryat scatter at 500 I am on the forums all the time. Im not saying there arnt any but if they are they are vary rare. As far as the issue witht he llc we have to be within 16m to use our llc specials also. They are moving eyeshot to master which im okay with I never really use it much anyway since im a wookiee PvP is almost instadeath for me. I wanted to be a master BH since I started this game but am thinking of switching to commado since i have 17000 combat xp and 1 mil heavy weopons xp that will start me off nice in commando. that extra 44 skill points means a lot when you only have 33 at master bh you cant do all that much with it. The major reason why im thinking of moving out of BH is I have no defence being a wookiee and a bh. A commando pistoleer would give me better defence in the game.



thanks


MightyJoe




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Iraea
Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:35 am
#20

Well, I think BH is better. I'm a mid-level commando right now (2-1-3-0) and I've been giving a lot of thought to a MBH/Pistoleer build in fact, because I noticed the following:

1. The LLC is better than the flamethrower. It's faster and more accurate, and is AP1. With the 2.5x damage modifier holding a heavy weapon, the flamethrower DOT's main purpose is to keep hurting something after it rips your face off and eats it. You don't get exp for mobs that die to your flame dot after they kill you. And for PvP, the LLC is better in all respects.

2. Scatter pistols are much better than launcher pistols, and BH doesn't have to take pistoleer or smuggler for pistol mods and specials. If you want to not suck with your launcher, you've got to spend a bunch of skillpoints on one or both of those two classes. So you don't end up "saving" skillpoints compared to BH.

3. As a commando I'm going to be keeping 3-0-0-0 scout anyway, since I like being able to move up and down inclines at more than a walk. I don't think anyone who's serious about combat in this game, pve or pvp, can do without explore 3 in scout. So 24 of the 44 skillpoints you "save" by going commando instead of BH, are gonna end up in skills that are BH prereqs anyway.

4. The charged weapons are slow and inaccurate, and the burst radius is unreliable. If I could reliably hit everything in the burst radius with a shoulder fired weapon, and if the game calculated "near miss" explosion radiuses, these would be good weapons. As it is, they are expensive toys that people want nerfed because of their 1-shot potential.

5. In addition to all that, BHs get carbine mods and specials too. Carbines are kinda lame right now, but more options rarely hurt anyone; if nothing else, a damage slice laser carbine is a scary thing in terms of raw autoattack DPS.

So that's my thoughts. BHs have no drawbacks offensively. Commando offensive strengths are illusory at this time -they're playable, but it's not GOOD. The defenses BH is missing can be bolstered to a huge extent by spending the leftover skillpoints in the leftmost and rightmost trees of Pistoleer. The skillpoints commandos "save" end up having to be spent in BH prereqs (scout) and pistoleer/smuggler anyway.




Evelyn
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Gairon
Sat Nov 01, 2003 3:39 am
#21

yah its going to nerf CH dabbling a "little" bit but it is still possible to master CH and have flame4... so even after the patch.. rancor in one hand, flamethrower in the other, on the back of your mount....


I'm gonna have fun picking people off the back of their mounts with the HPBC lol.




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Celerity
Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:07 pm
#22

bh is best in pvp no doubt


but ur totally wrong at the pve part


a commando has the skillpoints to invest in ch trees and quite high aswell.. u can aswell as tank the creatures and also do majorly high damage


a bh cant tank **edit**.. and if two monstas attack u.. ur a chicken running up the hills.. while commando just enjoys the fast kills with his tanks protecting him

maddogs
Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:53 pm
#23

celerity not true with this next pach come ing ch dabeling is not going to do u much good



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jubeii
Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:00 pm
#24

Ive been both and BH is the better profession for PvP but not so good for PvE especially if you intend on Mastering BH. You can go either Master Pistoleer/BH pistol or Master Carbineer/BH Carbine and become a very goodPvE and PvPer but dont expect to Master BH. But a pure BH is not a PvE player.


Commando.....completely sucks for PvP but they make THE BEST PvE in the game. Why do commandos suck? Because the Flamethrower has limited capabilities to what it can do in PvP and the LP has no specials, which makes it useless. Once again, you can mix things up with other professions to make it better but as of now commandos arent built for PvP, its a support profession and to be effective in PvE the commando needs a tank which forces you to go up into the Creature Handling profession. But even then I dont know of a profession that doesnt need a tank therefore becoming a Commando/CH isnt a negative thing.




Jubeii
UKFalcon
Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:41 am
#25

Hi all im still kinda new to this game and undecided what class to become, either commando or bounty hunter, any suggestions?


thanks in advance

KavonOww
Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:44 am
#26

bounty hunter was my first choice because its powerful and fast and if you use your skills well you'll be good in pvp no matter how much they nerf us. commando is good for high damage in pve but they still are good in pvp just use overcharge shot 2 with your flamethrower and you'll be able to do high damage from range.



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