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Thread: Update on my template tests.

tacwraith
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:21 am
#14

tka boxes are meditate (meditatebox2=power boost and heal poison and disease, box4= heal wounds, and force of will which lets you get up from incapacitation).

next is balance, box1=knockdown, box4=knockdown+dizzy attack (you also get status effect defenses, unarmed toughness and melee mitigation2 at box3'ish).

then you have power, which is just damage and speed. at box 1 it gives you a dizzy attack, which aint useful once you get balance4.

then you have precision, which is +ranged and +melee defense, as well as attacks to specific ham bars (mind, health, action) and the unarmed accuracy.

and yes, even now the melee and ranged defenses do stack across proffessions, what does not stack is any dodge, counterattack, block type defenses. so no more matrix fencer/pistoleers.




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maddogs
Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:28 am
#15

verey good tac


but plzs note at master rifelmen your stats make it so with almost any wep you can shoot at 1 shot a sec


so if your looking for the best pvp combo tka 4/0/0/4 master riflemen


bine abel to hit some ones mind for 500 dam a sec is just to good to pass up and haveing 104 melee and 110 range defnce makes you 100x harder to hit and throw commando in there for pve you got a perfect pvper and a perfect pve er


rifelmens not good for pve if you dont always have your mind bufed but in pvp haveing you mind buf is a must any way so why not gain of that




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tacwraith
Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:43 am
#16

maddogs, now, with just box3 in rifle speed my 6.2 spd rifle fires at 1.8 seconds. my speed sliced t21 fires every 1.2 or so seconds.

with my template, master commando, rifleman 3.4.0.4, tka 4.0.0.4 I have 134 ranged AND melee defenses, I have almost, ALMOST the same speed as a master rifleman, i have their same damage as far as mind bar (headshot2 and 3) goes and to boot I get all commando weapons. TKA/Rifleman makes you a single-target killer, commando/tka/rifleman makes you single target killer beyond 16m and a multiple target killer under 16m.




'Foolish boy. Don't you know anything about Fantasia? It's the world of human fantasy. Every part, every creature of it, is a piece of the dreams and hopes of mankind. Therefor, it has no boundaries.'
'But why is Fantasia dying then?'
'Because people have begun to loose their hopes and forget their dreams. So the nothing grows stronger. It's the emptiness that's left. It's like a despair, destroying this world. And I have been trying to help it.'
'But why?'
'Because people who have no hopes are easy to control. And whoever has control has the power'
RNA - Master Bio Engineer pet-maker of Flurry (email your order!)

SeminoleDriver
Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:56 pm
#17

I gotcha! Thanks for the info! Any suggestions for getting that 125K of unarmed for novice TKA??



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Slay55
Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:32 pm
#18

*with my template, master commando, rifleman 3.4.0.4, tka 4.0.0.4 *


Correct me if I am wrong but you do not have enough points to Master Commando, and do both the tka and rifleman trees to what you are saying.


Master Commando-198points


Tka 4-0-0-4=34points


Rifleman 3-4-0-4=44points


=more than the 250 you start with

tacwraith
Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:30 pm
#19

actually there's 1 point left over.

use the alakazam character builder.




'Foolish boy. Don't you know anything about Fantasia? It's the world of human fantasy. Every part, every creature of it, is a piece of the dreams and hopes of mankind. Therefor, it has no boundaries.'
'But why is Fantasia dying then?'
'Because people have begun to loose their hopes and forget their dreams. So the nothing grows stronger. It's the emptiness that's left. It's like a despair, destroying this world. And I have been trying to help it.'
'But why?'
'Because people who have no hopes are easy to control. And whoever has control has the power'
RNA - Master Bio Engineer pet-maker of Flurry (email your order!)

Slay55
Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:31 pm
#20

Ok I have counted boxes in game and the numbers dont match. So unless they changed the requirements for Commando, Allakhazam's character builder is wrong. It takes 198 skill points worth of boxes to get MC, which includes the Artisian and Brawler trees along with the Master Marksman.



Maybe I am wrong in my requirements including a tree of Artisian and a tree of Brawler alnog with Master Marksman, but if so then someone please show me the way to more skill points


Slay55
Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:34 pm
#21

Ok went to Allah's character builder and it does NOT list needing Engineering tree for Comando. So who is wrong? Allah's or the manuel from Sony?
CarlTheWookie
Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:48 pm
#22






Slay55 wrote:
Ok went to Allah's character builder and it does NOT list needing Engineering tree for Comando. So who is wrong? Allah's or the manuel from Sony?





Prima guide is wrong, SOE manual is wrong. Master commando only takes Mastermarksman + Unarmed IV.




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Slay55
Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:32 am
#23

Well I'll be dammed, time to go dump some skill points and get some skillz!
tacwraith
Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:29 am
#24

alakazam is on the mark as far as skill point allocation. some of the info they have on abilities and bonuses given per box is wrong, but its a good tool to plan out your point spendage.




'Foolish boy. Don't you know anything about Fantasia? It's the world of human fantasy. Every part, every creature of it, is a piece of the dreams and hopes of mankind. Therefor, it has no boundaries.'
'But why is Fantasia dying then?'
'Because people have begun to loose their hopes and forget their dreams. So the nothing grows stronger. It's the emptiness that's left. It's like a despair, destroying this world. And I have been trying to help it.'
'But why?'
'Because people who have no hopes are easy to control. And whoever has control has the power'
RNA - Master Bio Engineer pet-maker of Flurry (email your order!)

StealthWolfe
Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:24 pm
#25

Time to go pick up a rifle and vibroknuckles.



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Takau
Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:05 pm
#26

Tac,


First I would like to thank you for coming up with a wonderful template.


I notice with this template you give up melee mitigation 3 from mastering tka. It seems you wouldbe enhanced for the 62m battle, but sufferin melee.Sincewe areslow on foot we can't very well kite a melee.Our dot willoffset this, but a master doc/ master tka wouldbe difficult to beat.


Any thoughts oncovering thisweakness?


I know there is no perfect template, but this one is soo close

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