Commando Archive
Thread: Commando not nearly as bad as I expected!
It is supposed to be a low defense, high hitting power profession, in accordance with the CU docs. The devs need to read their own released notes and unbork this profession already!
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed." That is the way it is "supposed" to work, but you can use it with most any ranged weapon...from a DL-44 up to a T21.
TwoGuns wrote:
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is not fine, IMO!
Area attacks such as Carbineer's Improved Full Auto Area do not work with the Proton Rifle!
I thought the requirement for full auto area attack was that you must use an automatic weapon. Carbines are the only automatic weapons in the game, so proton rifles or any other weapons shouldn't work with it.
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My point was not to start a debate about whether weshould be upclose and personal or long range nukers. I'm sure that you have all had this conversation many times before I arrived. All I am saying is that we should be balanced at one end or the other of the existing spectrum of ranged professions. Either we are:
1) very short range, very low speed, very low accuracy and very high defense OR
2) very longe range, very low speed, very high accuracy and very low defense
In reality, we seem to be all ranges, low speed, medium accuracy, medium defense or what is essentially a watered down carbineer. IMO, the fact that no one (including the devs) can seem to agree where we should be on the above spectrum is indicative ofour sub-parweapons, weal skill mods and lack of specials.
Yeah...that about sums it up.
Skeena wrote:
My point was not to start a debate about whether weshould be upclose and personal or long range nukers. I'm sure that you have all had this conversation many times before I arrived. All I am saying is that we should be balanced at one end or the other of the existing spectrum of ranged professions. Either we are:
1) very short range, very low speed, very low accuracy and very high defense OR
2) very longe range, very low speed, very high accuracy and very low defense
In reality, we seem to be all ranges, low speed, medium accuracy, medium defense or what is essentially a watered down carbineer. IMO, the fact that no one (including the devs) can seem to agree where we should be on the above spectrum is indicative ofour sub-parweapons, weal skill mods and lack of specials.
StarNick wrote:
And lest not forget SAC heh...
Unfortunately...those two examples that were referred to, are examples of -enhanced- weaponry. Commandos, in order to compete with other professions need enhanced weapons to produce the damage we should be able to wrought with elite specials...unfortunately against enhanced weapons of other catagories?
A LBC thats over 900 max damage is a pretty good dang one, and would really require some nice power cells or krayt tissues...a glop grenade as you said to have 1500 dmg (very nice especially in PvP with the AoE, since at least *that* works), needs enhancements...
Its sad almost... =/
Well as for the LBC. Havent a clue what the hell went into it. Guildmate gave it to me. And It's been sitting in my back room ever since awaiting either an ADK or to see if I can beat it once I make 12pt WS. As for the glop. Yeah high end acklay venom. Cant recall the exact stats but all the stuff I've made grenades out of so far hasnt been under 700. Usually 800-1100 venom. And if you have to buy it. On bria. That aint cheap. Usually forking out about 50k a vial of 7-900. Some people go totally retarded though and want as much as 1+M a vial as if it were krayt tissue. But their nuts and will never sell it at that price unless they dratically increase grenade stack size to like.. 5000 uses.
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is not fine, IMO!
Area attacks such as Carbineer's Improved Full Auto Area do not work with the Proton Rifle!
Thats because it says it requires a full auto weapon
OsloisAwomaow wrote:
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is not fine, IMO!
Area attacks such as Carbineer's Improved Full Auto Area do not work with the Proton Rifle!
Thats because it says it requires a full auto weapon/bonk
Sorry man, just like you can do the special with pistols and rifles?
I can do it with a wimpy Scout Blaster or my beloved gigantic-black-cigar-called-a-T21!
Spray Shot and Fan Shot don't exactly have that requirement of a "full auto weapon" in their descriptions either!
KJFett3 wrote:
That is the way it is "supposed" to work, but you can use it with most any ranged weapon...from a DL-44 up to a T21.
TwoGuns wrote:
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is not fine, IMO!
Area attacks such as Carbineer's Improved Full Auto Area do not work with the Proton Rifle!
I thought the requirement for full auto area attack was that you must use an automatic weapon. Carbines are the only automatic weapons in the game, so proton rifles or any other weapons shouldn't work with it.
Well, you are aware that the T-21 is actually a repeating blaster right? According to the d20 guide on weapons, which A LOT of SWG weapons have come from, the T-21 is a repeating blaster, and I think that WE, commandos, should have that gun and not Riflemen. Honestly, do you think that that stormie in ANH was going to take the time to aim it like a rifle? Hell no! Fire from the hip, spray and pray!
Message Edited by jm_preiss on 08-14-2005 12:13 AM
Message Edited by TerasKasiWeaponsSmith on 08-13-2005 11:24 PM
Message Edited by TerasKasiWeaponsSmith on 08-13-2005 11:26 PM
jm_preiss wrote:
KJFett3 wrote:
That is the way it is "supposed" to work, but you can use it with most any ranged weapon...from a DL-44 up to a T21.
TwoGuns wrote:
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is not fine, IMO!
Area attacks such as Carbineer's Improved Full Auto Area do not work with the Proton Rifle!
I thought the requirement for full auto area attack was that you must use an automatic weapon. Carbines are the only automatic weapons in the game, so proton rifles or any other weapons shouldn't work with it.
Well, you are aware that the T-21 is actually a repeating blaster right? According to the d20 guide on weapons, which A LOT of SWG weapons have come from, the T-21 is a repeating blaster, and I think that WE, commandos, should have that gun and not Riflemen. Honestly, do you think that that stormie in ANH was going to take the time to aim it like a rifle? Hell no! Fire from the hip, spray and pray!Message Edited by jm_preiss on 08-14-2005 12:13 AM
Riiigghhht. And doing automatic weapons fire with a Tusken Rifle, LD-1, DL-44, Scout Blaster, ALR, Republic Blaster. About half of the things I listed here have been repeatedly shown in the movies, and they're not exactly "automatic weapons." Why shouldn't the Proton Rifle deserve to use area attack specials like Full Auto Area?