Commando Archive
Thread: How many of you...
YamadaMan
Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:39 am
#14
LOL original poster:
you're actually saying that you have so little fun in that game that you'd cancel your account if they change that small thing ?
so better cancel right now, cause there are alot of bigger things that are about to be changed...
damn the game is way bigger than one PvP/PvE special, you know there are actually, 32 other professions that doesn't invole feign death and all people playing those profs are doing allright do you ?
and you say others are whiners uh ?...
perso, I went through 5 patches (from 4 to 9) nerfs and all, still playing the game and enjoying it, and guess what, patch 5, was CH, they nerfed CH to death, patch 6, was BE, nerfed BE then they nerfed panic shot/warcry bringing the specials to the "broken" special list (and they were working great !) so seriously, what would I care bout FD ? try to win your duels, won't need FD mate !
and u got community leader title, dude you should better know of the game... really.
you're actually saying that you have so little fun in that game that you'd cancel your account if they change that small thing ?
so better cancel right now, cause there are alot of bigger things that are about to be changed...
damn the game is way bigger than one PvP/PvE special, you know there are actually, 32 other professions that doesn't invole feign death and all people playing those profs are doing allright do you ?
and you say others are whiners uh ?...
perso, I went through 5 patches (from 4 to 9) nerfs and all, still playing the game and enjoying it, and guess what, patch 5, was CH, they nerfed CH to death, patch 6, was BE, nerfed BE then they nerfed panic shot/warcry bringing the specials to the "broken" special list (and they were working great !) so seriously, what would I care bout FD ? try to win your duels, won't need FD mate !
and u got community leader title, dude you should better know of the game... really.
Message Edited by YamadaMan on 07-20-2004 01:40 PM
yimaz
Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:02 am
#15
Feign and FOW is my style-e-o in PVP I would be very Peeved if the removed it. Just leave it alone dev's, just leave it alone....
Zekk-
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:07 am
#16
He's concerned about feigning at the base terminal when its vulnerable. Standing up for 1 second and turning it off the timer. (or not standing up at all and doing it while feigned)
yimaz
Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:14 am
#17
Zekk- wrote:
He's concerned about feigning at the base terminal when its vulnerable. Standing up for 1 second and turning it off the timer. (or not standing up at all and doing it while feigned)
What somthing a smuggler can be needed for during the GSW? Well I guess we better nerf it.
UmmonPrime
Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:51 am
#18
I don't think i've even used FD yet and i've been a master for a while.
YamadaMan
Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:01 am
#19
no need to use FD if you fight right, the only use I see for FD is in corvette, get the group's lead and FD to avoid dying and respawn.
SStigg
Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:14 am
#20
Not me. If I'm PvP'ing another smuggler, and he's stupid enough to FD, I pull out my DE-10 and start blasting his armor to bits.
dorsai78664
Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:44 am
#21
I would not. I have only used it once in PvP for these reasons:
- Invites blacked HAM
- Invites degraded armor
- You can still get blackened HAM, degraded armor, and then get pulled out of a feign and db'd.
Message Edited by dorsai78664 on 07-20-2004 09:58 PM
Dracovious
Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:00 am
#22
It boils down to this... if its in the game, it should be able to be used for every aspect of the game where it fits. Now, once Feign Death is fixed and working in PvP I don't want it to be used by every Tom/**edit** and Harry so I believe if you want to use Feign Death in PvP that ability should be in the Master Smuggler box. Because i know the frustration that will come when everyone is faking in as soon as they are low, at least make em drop the serious amounts of points to do it.
HOTDOG
Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:09 am
#23
I wouldn't cancel but the answer is VERY simple...
Feign Death: PvE
FD should work exactly as it does now with this addition:
- When the smuggler gets up from FD, there is an "attack free" period before they are re-aggroed. The length of time is based on his Dirty Fighting Box:
DF1 10 Seconds
DF2 15 Seconds
DF3 20 Seconds
DF4 25 Seconds
Mas. 30 Seconds
This clock is broken once the smuggler engages in combat.
- Once FD is used, a significant amount of time must pass before it can be used again (like 3 minutes).
Feign Death: PvP
A few pro and con changes to makeFD an advantage for PvP without it being over powering:
PROs:
- When FD'd the smuggler appears dead- with the "%TT Corpse" over the body.
- Once FD'd the smuggler cannot be selected as a target.
CONs:
- The chance for success of FDis GREATLY reduced in PvP (like, 35-40% at Master).
- Once FDis used in PvP, there is a time limit (like5 minutes) before it can be used again.
- After the smuggler gets upthey can be instantly targeted again.
- The smuggler still takes double the damage when they attempt FD whether they succeed or not.
The problem with FD is: in PvP it's pretty much an end-game. Once you see a BH in your rear-view you could feign death and the chase is over. Therefore it has to be balanced when it comes to PvP. Greatly, reducing the chances of success and puttinga clock on the next opportunity to try it brings that balance into play.
This way, one could use FD without fear of being "black rotted" and the chance for success is so low that a BH actually has a chance to collect on his kill. Also, FD cannot be used to attack someone- FD- stand up and get a shot in- FD- rinse and repeat.
So the fix is EASY. The hard part is getting someone to care enough about us to actually fix it. Maybe because the Jedi are using this they will do a hotfix on it. It WOULD help smooth some of the problems BH and Jedi are having now.
Oh yeah, this would also take care of the "posture up" exploit.
Anyone see where this could be griefed? Exploited?
Message Edited by HOTDOG on 07-20-2004 10:23 AM
nerfherder321
Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:08 pm
#24
would like to become a rebel commando? i know im tired of it 
Starnick, are the changes coming soon for us?
Knightcrest
Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:22 pm
#25
I am a rebel Commando... and have no problem admitting my role.