Commando Archive
Thread: TC Weapon Conversion MAKES ALL YOUR KRAYT FLAMETHROWER GARBAGE!
zero8404
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:18 pm
#14
too much crack smoki, slow down. nuthin is set in stone yet they are still tweaking pretty much everything. your the one speculating, as they are no "hard" facts. how can anything be fact when it could in fact be changed tomorrow. Balance is what the CU is about, and if that means peeps lose millions on weapons, then so be it.
inlord
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:32 pm
#15
wut would a 1400 damage flame with 4.0 speed and a 25+HWS do then ? post Cu
RazerWolf
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:34 pm
#16
Starsider's up after Eclipse, so I'll make a note of what happens to my 3.2 1120 and 1180s.
MorpheusArgus
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:45 pm
#17
I am not sure if I am right with all of this as I have been just reading all of the posts (patching TC as we speak to try out some stuff) but isn't the CU to stop people from having 1.0 fire speeds and guns that can do MASSIVE amounts of dmg. And aren't the weapons on the frogs have damn amazing stats and are NOT what we are to expect on live, they are just to help us test stuff?
Skwall
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:01 pm
#18
RazerWolf wrote:
Starsider's up after Eclipse, so I'll make a note of what happens to my 3.2 1120 and 1180s.
yes please, I have a 1258 i'm waiting on.....sigh...
nessius1
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:54 am
#19
Don't get the sig wrong my alt is the master commando
This stats were taken from TC-Bria (my alt is a Master Commando /Medic /FS toon)
Spd /My Mod Spd Damage Est DPS / Modified DPS
Flame Throwers
3.48 2.28 548-1042 264.36sec 403.23sec
Was 4.6 557-1039 was a damage slice
3.3 2.16 512-983264.6sec 403.61sec
Was 3.0453-846was speed sliced
3.56 2.33548-1095 266.23 406.08
Was5.0 631-1247was damage sliced
Heavy Acid Rifle
3.52 2.3 242-471134.56205.56
Was 5.4 469-1014 was damage sliced
Now here's the funny one (this was a looted weapon)
Power5 Pistol
2.83 2.03 247-564142.94199.61
Was 4.0163 max not sliced
(wonder what the dps and mod. spd would be if i was a pistoleer lol)
RocketLaunchers (make this one short)
they were from 1200-1587 min and 3600-4800 max 7.6 speed or lower (these depending on the slice they got)
After CU average 200min-400dmg around 2.4-2.7 speed i beleive
Grenades- Far as i've seen Imp detonators look very weak, but protons look great
Had I known when they were doing the last save on the server (April 7) for TC I would have included more weapons to get a bettter picture
Anyone able to tell me when the next save is?
Message Edited by nessius1 on 04-20-2005 01:55 AM
Rathask
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:03 am
#20
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Option to disassemble krayted weapons? That's INSANE - but would be very cool. Friend of mine owns several pistols made with +300 damage -1.0 speed krayt tissue. That's just wicked.
Knightcrest
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:45 am
#21
A disassemble option would be nice 'cause I am pretty sure that my 1.9s 938mx flamer is gonna take it pretty hard on the conversion while my 3.2s 1248mx will end up being the better of the two (6.5mil on that speed flamer down the tube), but I can deal with that if they fix the other issues etc. It stinks to lose out on a conversion because of the new stat ranges, but I expected some weapons to take it hard that were way out of the normal ranges.
As far as disassembling goes... it would be nice, however I wouldn't see that being all that likely with the extra issues it might create. Yeah, disassembling RIS is not as drastic because there is a much lower amount of that that would need to be broken down. Think about how many krayt weapons are out there total vs. RIS that could begin to cause some kinds of new conversion issues. I mean, alone, I have a large house that is full with my krayt/acklay/gorax/spiderfang weapons as an armory for when I need something. I am sure I there are many more people alone out there that have even more weapons that have been enhanced vs. the not so many who have RIS. If it happens, I'll be happy... if it doesn't, I won't be hurt though. It is an expensive change, but one that is needed to get some weapons back inline for everyone's benefit. (At least I got a friend through the spider clan cave in a hurry for his knight trials using that speed flamer... total chaos
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As far as disassembling goes... it would be nice, however I wouldn't see that being all that likely with the extra issues it might create. Yeah, disassembling RIS is not as drastic because there is a much lower amount of that that would need to be broken down. Think about how many krayt weapons are out there total vs. RIS that could begin to cause some kinds of new conversion issues. I mean, alone, I have a large house that is full with my krayt/acklay/gorax/spiderfang weapons as an armory for when I need something. I am sure I there are many more people alone out there that have even more weapons that have been enhanced vs. the not so many who have RIS. If it happens, I'll be happy... if it doesn't, I won't be hurt though. It is an expensive change, but one that is needed to get some weapons back inline for everyone's benefit. (At least I got a friend through the spider clan cave in a hurry for his knight trials using that speed flamer... total chaos
)
JoKen_Jash
Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:07 am
#22
RazerWolf wrote:
Starsider's up after Eclipse, so I'll make a note of what happens to my 3.2 1120 and 1180s.
It is? I didn't know that...
I thought we were off of the line-up.
Sneakysmuggler
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:07 pm
#23
Well my current krayt flamer is 500-937 dmg and 2.1 speed. So if im reading this right, it should be about 2.8 speed and 700-1300 damage in CU?
StarNick
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:15 pm
#24
Make sure you folks post this on the conversion bug threads too 
Blackmoore
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:37 pm
#25
In case anyone was wondering. There currently is a thread concerning experimentation capping for damage and other modifiers. Also, someone said that they reached the cap with decent tissues on a combine. So, then you couldn't even further experiment damage. I am pretty ticked about this.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=79649
You think you guys are mad?
Smoki
Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:38 pm
#26
Weapons
* Made another pass at weapon conversion ranges.
* Changed conversion table so that the top 5% of current weapons are in the 100 to 120% of crafting max range.
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* Made another pass at weapon conversion ranges.
* Changed conversion table so that the top 5% of current weapons are in the 100 to 120% of crafting max range.
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Message Edited by Smoki on 04-20-2005 07:44 PM