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Thread: commando still the pve king ?

KristianMR
Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:47 am
#1


is commando still a good choice for a pve player like me ?.. i want to kill NS, singing mountain clans, rancors and other FS npc, or is the commando proffs just completely broken after the "bleed" nerf pacth



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Xenothaulus
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:15 am
#2


KristianMR wrote:
is commando still a good choice for a pve player like me ?.. i want to kill NS, singing mountain clans, rancors and other FS npc, or is the commando proffs just completely broken after the "bleed" nerf pacth



I'm still having fun and, to be honest, I don't notice a difference after the DoT nerf. Of course, it came only about a week after I started the profession, so maybe I'd not played long enough notice. What I did notice right away is that our initial damage with the specials has been increased quite a bit, resulting in lots of one-shots on NPCs, and the heat resist on a MOB only works against the actual hits. (100% heat resistant mobs can still be set on fire.)

As for what you want to kill, no one should be able to solo them, (and everyone does, I know.) If you're only a commando, then no way. That said, I was a creature handler since September, and I dropped it once I decided to try out commando, as I discovered that I could take most things without my creature tank.

Pick up some defense lines from rifleman or tk, and you'll be happy I think. Just don't expect to be Arnold Schwarzenegger or anything.

My best solos so far:

Fort Tusken. (Managed to show up when there were only 2 other people there. One got pissed off at me and left, the other died.) ((No, just the first wave. The second wave hasn't spawned on our server for months ))

Almost all of the Warren, until my buffs ran out, followed shortly by my muon...

And I made it through exactly 11 NPCs at the Crystal Caves before they finally got me with some nasty force choke thing.

Commando is great fun, it just needs a LOT of fixing.

Message Edited by Xenothaulus on 03-10-2004 10:13 AM



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KeziEka
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:41 am
#3

I pretty much own in PvE, unless it's against a creature with high heat resists (virtually every really tough creature including Rancors, Night Sisters, Kimos, ect, ect).


So, if you want to be effective against any of the above, you'll probably need to pick up another profession in addition to commando (unless the Acid Rifle becomes effective after Publish 8).





-Kezi Eka
Master Commando
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JediHawk650cc
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:27 am
#4






KeziEka wrote:

I pretty much own in PvE, unless it's against a creature with high heat resists (virtually every really tough creature including Rancors, Night Sisters, Kimos, ect, ect).


So, if you want to be effective against any of the above, you'll probably need to pick up another profession in addition to commando (unless the Acid Rifle becomes effective after Publish 8).








I don't think they will ever fix the HAR. The DEVS think that our profession is balanced. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
garvin
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:17 pm
#5

Thanks to Heat resists I would say no...


We can still take out the lower creatures pretty quick, but then again so can many other professions...plus many other professions who don't deal as powerful an initial shot as we do (via our special) still out power us when you look at DPS...


Saying we were Kings before is misleading...our DoTs and such made it appear we were very powerful, but when you weigh in our restrictions, delay, speed and accuracy, we weren't much better then Rifleman or other ranged professions, plus they had many advantages over us...it all depends on the situation.





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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G13Kryptic
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:32 pm
#6

Commando is definitly not the pve king, rifleman are by far the pve king, strafe2 with ap3 T-21 will outkill anyone and anything. Unless of course its 100% energy resistant, lol. But commando is pretty limited since the flamer has no armor piercing, and heavy weapons are what they are....



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SithInferno
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:56 pm
#7

PvE and PVP king.....



Dueled a master he killed me in 1 hit with that so called nerfed dot shot, he hit me for over 2000.


Dueled another master he did the same thing, 1 shot 1 kill.


dueled another he also did the same thing, PVP kingindeed. IM a Bounty Hunter and I got 1 eye shot off to blind, but not one of them missed even when blinded, and still 1 hit killed me.



You all can say your not to powerfull, but you can only lie to yourselfs for so long. With that 1 flame shot any player will die, maybe even with buffs and armor.


Ranelaen
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:13 am
#8

Simple, your a new who does not play pvp. Please do not post unless you have knowledge. Its people like you that got us nerfed in the first place.

Lets do some math, and ill show you.


10000dm * .25(75 percent pvp reduction) your not a new so you have armour 2500 * .75(ar1 reduction) 1875*.20(80 perecent resist composite)


375 damage now since your not a newb, you have 3000 in all bars. Thats 3000-375= 2625. WIth a moderate 200 point burn which with buffs your regenrate that in 5-7 seconds.


Rifleman 1500 dam * .25, 375 * .75, 281 *.2, 56 dm woah seems like commandos do more right......wrong commando do that attack once every 10 seconds

so 375 in 10 seconds vs a riflemans 9-10 attacks at 56 damage around 540 damage, and that is to the mind a non easily healable bar. Not to mention im lowballing the riflemans damage by alot, its more around 80-110 a sec after all reductions. The commando hits random targets, there is no way the commando can compete. This is true of every other combat class against the commando. Do the math man and stop whining about us, and figure what your class needs. Next time you come in this forum i expect to see intelligence, otherwise your just another uniformed troll.

Ranelan
garvin
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:49 am
#9

You all can say your not to powerfull, but you can only lie to yourselfs for so long. With that 1 flame shot any player will die, maybe even with buffs and armor.


Were you wearing armor? Does your armor have any heat resists? Were you buff'd? Did you use any food enhancements?


If you faced a commando with no armor, no buffs, low profession defenses and no food enhancements in your system then you pretty much got what was coming to you...Any combat profession would have off'd you that quick....


Let's see...there's one person saying saying we are over-powered vs an entire profession plus tons of people across other professions that say we are much weaker then before and in no way over-powered...whom shall we believe...



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

flabajaba2213
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:32 am
#10






Cuality wrote:





SithInferno wrote:

PvE and PVP king.....



Dueled a master he killed me in 1 hit with that so called nerfed dot shot, he hit me for over 2000.


Dueled another master he did the same thing, 1 shot 1 kill.


dueled another he also did the same thing, PVP kingindeed. IM a Bounty Hunter and I got 1 eye shot off to blind, but not one of them missed even when blinded, and still 1 hit killed me.



You all can say your not to powerfull, but you can only lie to yourselfs for so long. With that 1 flame shot any player will die, maybe even with buffs and armor.








duh, he must be a wookie, didnt you hear wookies are flammable?






It is because of all of the hair care products. Ever lit a can of hairspray? Ouch.


have to keep that fur shiny and tangle free.




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Damage-Inc-X
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:19 am
#11






SithInferno wrote:

PvE and PVP king.....



Dueled a master he killed me in 1 hit with that so called nerfed dot shot, he hit me for over 2000.


Dueled another master he did the same thing, 1 shot 1 kill.


dueled another he also did the same thing, PVP kingindeed. IM a Bounty Hunter and I got 1 eye shot off to blind, but not one of them missed even when blinded, and still 1 hit killed me.



You all can say your not to powerfull, but you can only lie to yourselfs for so long. With that 1 flame shot any player will die, maybe even with buffs and armor.









Youshouldredo this duel with the same master commando from 30+ meters away and start off with Fire Knockdown followed by Confusion Shot,youcan replace confusion with spray shot if you're aMBH,it'll be a very different story. The commando will be on his/her back while you finish him/her off. The carbine line of BH is a very powerful line, thatand the LLC specials and I never had an NPC mark last more than 3 or 4 attacks. I'm sure its the samein PvP, being a wookiee I rarely engaged in it whenI wasa BH.

darkguyver
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:14 pm
#12

i dont know why these noobs get on the bords and just post crap like that. as for being a pve king i can kill most quenkers with little to no problem and its fun. a god way to make easy money anyways



Vae victus "suffering to the conquered."
Cuality
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:48 pm
#13






SithInferno wrote:

PvE and PVP king.....



Dueled a master he killed me in 1 hit with that so called nerfed dot shot, he hit me for over 2000.


Dueled another master he did the same thing, 1 shot 1 kill.


dueled another he also did the same thing, PVP kingindeed. IM a Bounty Hunter and I got 1 eye shot off to blind, but not one of them missed even when blinded, and still 1 hit killed me.



You all can say your not to powerfull, but you can only lie to yourselfs for so long. With that 1 flame shot any player will die, maybe even with buffs and armor.








duh, he must be a wookie, didnt you hear wookies are flammable?




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