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Thread: Commando and jedi blocking and a few questions

chembelec
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:57 am
#1

Hello everyone,


I am a master bounty hunter, and now that I have some more skills to choose from, I was thinking about commando. I'm having problems hunting jedi effectively with my carbine/mbh build (ls block is killing me).


So, a few questions:


1. Can any of your weapons bypass the block? Like the FT or grenades?

2. Have any of you dueled a jedi, and if so, what were your results?


Thank you for your time



Aleema Rar
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veteran = the ones that will prolly cancel their accounts pretty soon
reward = something the new players don't mind not having
Skeptic666
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:59 am
#2

i have tested. THey block the flame. They even block the Heavy wepons. But they don't Block The Grenades. ANd if you have a lil stack of those and some Sow cake to increase your accuracy its nice



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chembelec
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:21 am
#3

Does the damage still hurt me from the grenades? Ive heard conflicting reports.






Aleema Rar
SOE dictionary:
balance = nerf
improvement = dumbing down
enhancement = re-coding for xbox
veteran = the ones that will prolly cancel their accounts pretty soon
reward = something the new players don't mind not having
Ster
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:35 am
#4






chembelec wrote:

Does the damage still hurt me from the grenades? Ive heard conflicting reports.









Yes you still get hurt from your grenades two fold. First, by the high HAM cost, and second by the blast damage. If it happens to miss you then you are lucky.


Protons are your best bet when trying to kill the jedi, however they are only certified at master. Just an FYI.



Ster Nemor... The last of the Mononokians
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chembelec
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:41 am
#5


So, just picking up the grenade line is useless? The other grenades are of no use to killJedi? Forgive the noob questions, as it has been a LONG time since I played commando.


Do you, as a community, feel that grenades can effectively be used to exterminate the high level jedi?

Message Edited by chembelec on 07-16-2004 10:41 AM



Aleema Rar
SOE dictionary:
balance = nerf
improvement = dumbing down
enhancement = re-coding for xbox
veteran = the ones that will prolly cancel their accounts pretty soon
reward = something the new players don't mind not having
Skeptic666
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:41 am
#6

yup true true ster But alsolet a tankfrind take the damage stand at 11 m and chuck away



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chembelec
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:43 am
#7

Skeptic,


I would prefer to hunt them alone. I'm just exploring my options.



Aleema Rar
SOE dictionary:
balance = nerf
improvement = dumbing down
enhancement = re-coding for xbox
veteran = the ones that will prolly cancel their accounts pretty soon
reward = something the new players don't mind not having
Skeptic666
Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:19 am
#8


well then ummm


nope.


other wise better have medic to heal the damage your going to give your self

Message Edited by Skeptic666 on 07-16-2004 09:19 AM



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chembelec
Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:34 am
#9

Well, my thought was this:


4000 commando, 3000 bh, master tk.


Find yourself a Jedi knight terrorizing your local town. Have your bomb droid (aptly named "buffbot") under you. run up to the jedi without looking like you are running up to him, maybe mutter something about healing him. Be sure you are wearing a duster to hide the countdown,and pop a flameout (5 or so next attacks negated 100%). detonate droid, lob a few grenades. you dont take any damage, and you have one dead jedi.


So, I'm not too concerned about taking damage myself. Will grenades be a viable option?



Aleema Rar
SOE dictionary:
balance = nerf
improvement = dumbing down
enhancement = re-coding for xbox
veteran = the ones that will prolly cancel their accounts pretty soon
reward = something the new players don't mind not having
Andriko
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:03 am
#10

I can't offer any advice about the effectiveness of grenades, but make sure to get your grenades (if you decide to go that route)made from Acklay venom, it provides a very nice enhancement that is overshadowed by the non-use of grenades for anything.


Note: Grenades have several slots for loot enhancements, but I am not familiar with what components go into which slots. I know kliknik glands also work in grenades but I don't know if they fit in the same slot as acklay stuff, so you may have to pick one or the other. You might want to ask on the WS boards for more info on this.




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Ster
Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:43 am
#11






Andriko wrote:

I can't offer any advice about the effectiveness of grenades, but make sure to get your grenades (if you decide to go that route)made from Acklay venom, it provides a very nice enhancement that is overshadowed by the non-use of grenades for anything.


Note: Grenades have several slots for loot enhancements, but I am not familiar with what components go into which slots. I know kliknik glands also work in grenades but I don't know if they fit in the same slot as acklay stuff, so you may have to pick one or the other. You might want to ask on the WS boards for more info on this.







I believe Cryobanes and thermals use the klicknick glands while glop use the acklay venom. Protons have no special slots that I know of.


As far as taking just the grenade line of commando, i dont know. The only reason I say that protons are the only useful ones is because they can get up to 3500 damage without PUs. I am unsure on how high the others can get though. At any rate, it is accuracy that is the worst problem. Even at master it is hard to hit things. However, if you ate some snowcake that might work well. I am going to be running some tests soon with a relatively high end jedi friend of mine. I will post the results on the boards here when I do.




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Master TKA
Pistoleer 0030
Raptor2k1
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:29 am
#12

Personally, I wouldn't recoment hunting jedi with grenades, as it's so incredibly impractical.



The only real reason to would be if you were a suicial master commando with a lot of cash (they can get to be quite expensive.)


Plus, if you're out of the ideal range, your accuracy goes out the window, even at master...






And please, don't even mention the ideal range of our only practical PvP grenade... it's too painful to recall.



Kyeran Halkyon

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TorveStardust
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:51 am
#13

bah,jedi shouldn't be able to block flames,look at episode 2,Mace Winda,a jedi master,couldn't block Jange Fett's flamethrower...however,i like the grenade stuff
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