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Thread: Adding Insult To Injury.

Skeptic666
Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:39 am
#1


Wow boys and girls. This is a sad day. I have not been to the boards in the past like 5 days or 4 or something. But I had to come today I was bored. Then I come to read that Dots are not going to stick all the time. Be it that I do miss with my Flame Thrower as it is. So now not only will I miss but I will miss with my dot? OK this is fargin great. Now There is no reason at all to stay commando I guess I will be moving on soon. I will have to try something else and hope it can keep my attention but I realy wanted to be a commando.


They have hit us with a soft nerf bat enough were it starts to hurt us more and more.


Dear Garvin,


I know you are all for waiting for the CR So good luck. All I can say is its anger at how much worse we can get. I am sorry.



But its sad to see SOE TH and now you saying wait for the CR to see what happens.


I just can't believe were they are going with this profession. Pretty soon there going to say welp lets just give them nerf bats and Super Soakers and see how they do.


Is there any hope at all any more. And is there a release date for the CR yet? How many more years can they make us wait.


This is the first time I can realy see me typing in Yes at the do you want to give up master commando

Message Edited by Skeptic666 on 08-02-2004 09:19 AM



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StarNick
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:32 am
#2

*master bonk*




[Btw this was because they made CM poison DoTs miss less often, helping PvP out a bit...hence all DoTs were effected, but they did try to reduce it a bit for us....]



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Skeptic666
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:40 am
#3

miss lessoften or miss more often???



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Quevey
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:41 am
#4

/salute



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Unskilled1
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:51 am
#5

um reduce it a bit for commando?


to what a mini bic!


LOL
garvin
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:14 am
#6

As I reported in another post....my miss rate of the DoTon TC this weekend was very low...and that was before Kel improved our potency...tonight I'll try again...


Our miss rate is so low as is, it's hardly noticable...and of those misses 100% of my DoT's attached on the second hit...


Before you go blasting the Devs for this change, you really need to try it out...Sure it has a minimal effect on us, but it is good for the game overall...


This is a hit we are taking for the entire game overall, not just a NERF directed at solely use like has happened a lot in the past...


To me it seems selfish to put our needs over the needs of the entire Combat Population...We could demand they reverse this change because of how it effects us, but we'd be inturn hurting all those who PvP...and I don't feel that is fair to ask...do you?


We all know that folks are impatient for Commando Fixes...and we still don't have a timeline or specifics...but we shouldn't shoot down every little change that helps the game overall because it might slightly impact us...


What if there was a game change that was made that really helped us, but slightly effected Carbineers negatively...would we be ok giving up that change because one profession was upset over something thatslightlyeffected them?



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Nerj
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:20 am
#7



Kel improved our potency from what? to what? or how much of a increase?


Gee ..I thought we were fixed .. That's why I'm feeling Neutered



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garvin
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:23 am
#8






Nerj wrote:


Kel improved our potency from what? to what? or how much of a increase?


Gee ..I thought we were fixed .. That's why I'm feeling Neutered





Before Kel's fix, all DoTs were set to miss 5% of the time...


After Kel's fix all DoTs are still set to miss 5% of the time with the exception of Flame DoTs...they will miss less (probably around 3 or 2%)...I'll have to test this...


5% sure doesn't seem alike a whole lot...especially when we'll now miss even less then that...


Resistences will play a role in this though...if someone has a high level of Flame Resistence (like via looted skill mods) this may lead to more DoTs not sticking...but that's why our Potency is ebing turned up...to counter the resists as much as possible for Commandos especially...


Kel recognizes our current state and is making an effort to help us...


Message Edited by garvin on 08-02-2004 10:29 AM



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

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Skeptic666
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:44 am
#9

so basicly I miss with my Flame Thrower 5-10% and now my dots will mist another 5%


Yay!


Aaaa well. Maybe when We are all running around with Flame Throwers that they decide to give the max damage of 50 to becuase hey might as well with a speed of 9.9 then maybe they will say hey might as well do something for them. I am actualy kinda interested in commando now. I can't want to see what they can do next to make you guys any worse.


Hehe SOE to commando my analagy would be


Commando is Charlie Brown and SOE is aaa crap I can't remember her name but any way we go to kick the foot ball wich is the CR and our Professions dreams. We are about to kick a Field Goal and bam Soe moves the ball we fall on our backs. and Even worse we throw out our backs and we get a lil more tired and worse at combat



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garvin
Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:06 am
#10






Skeptic666 wrote:


Commando is Charlie Brown and SOE is aaa crap I can't remember her name but any way we go to kick the foot ball wich is the CR and our Professions dreams. We are about to kick a Field Goal and bam Soe moves the ball we fall on our backs. and Even worse we throw out our backs and we get a lil more tired and worse at combat





More like Charlie Brown currently misses kicking the ball 1 out of 5 times at most...but every time he kicks it he ALWAYS gets a field goal...


But soon, Charlie Brown will still miss kicking the ball 1 out of 5 times, except now he'll also miss a field goal like at most 1 out of 20 times...That's still one heck of a football player...most teams wouldn't be complaining about that type of record...And best of all, that other team that use to ALWAYS get the field goal as well, but missed the ball a lot less, will now miss the field goal more then poor Charlie Brown...


In reality...for all your negative feelings, we are actually getting a boost over other professions that have DoTs comparatively...


You are just focusing on the negatives before you've even experienced it...I encourage all TC Commandos to try it out...and remember that your Flame DoT is sticking MORE then other DoTs in game...count how many times your DoT doesn't stick (1 out of 17 times...1 out of 25 times...etc...but only count the shots that actually connect and not misses because your DoT won't stick on a miss anyway)...


Skeptic, are you sure you aren't being negative about this just to "be negative"? I think you are making a bigger deal out of this change then it really is...plus your ignoring all the postives for us an the game overall...




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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Quevey
Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:56 am
#11






garvin wrote:

What if there was a game change that was made that really helped us, but slightly effected Carbineers negatively...would we be ok giving up that change because one profession was upset over something thatslightlyeffected them?




im sorry but does lunge2 going to 20m ring a bell sure as hell effected me




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Quevey
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:03 pm
#12






garvin wrote:





Quevey wrote:





garvin wrote:

What if there was a game change that was made that really helped us, but slightly effected Carbineers negatively...would we be ok giving up that change because one profession was upset over something thatslightlyeffected them?




im sorry but does lunge2 going to 20m ring a bell sure as hell effected me






I'm not surehow lunge2 compares to this situation...the Devs made a change to help the overall game play especailly when it comes to PvP...Lunge2 going to 20m was changed to benefit just one profession specifically help those players who are willing to Master Brawler (there isn't currently many reasons to Master Brawler...that's pretty much it)...If Lunge2 going to 20m helped all professions but ours, I could understand your comparison...







ft 16m why wasnt it extended were a ranged class remember? but were put in a melee range because of this who else they using that lunge on a rifleman who wouldnt want to be that a close a carbiner pistoleer?


2.5 melee dmg to range classes


2.5 tohit bonus against range classes


when they nerfed bleeds our dot was nerfed again


now they wanna nerf dot sticks but it was UNINTENTIONAL that we were included see a freaking trend here


ill ask again how many steps backwards are we going to take ive been a master commando at the very least 10 months all i wanted to be its how i see myself in this game jedi no interest jtl bite me


i used to never or very rarely post in this forum because certain people defended and stood up for us/me but tbh those people quit game quit commandoor thier soe sheep now ttfn


Message Edited by Quevey on 08-02-2004 01:35 PM



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Skeptic666
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:04 am
#13

No im just mad that when I get home Ill be droping commando. And I don't hate to hate. I Just never thought ide actualy drop commando nor do I think I will have the Gull to do it again. So when I say good bye its probably going to be for good then I dont know what I want to do I guess its wait for JTLS and hope that saves this game. Other wise Its time to try to get a life that does not out cost my income



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