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Thread: Replace HAR with a 'support' Machine Gun?

tacwraith
Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:49 pm
#1

How about we get the equivalent of a WW2 MG42 machine gun instead of the HAR?



Simply put, a low damage per shot (say, 20 damage only), 1.0 spd, good accuracy at all ranges, ap3 (cmon its 20 damage!) and that always fires in 'cone' (aka has good chance of hitting anything 20m left-right of your current target)... BUT that is static (commando has to kneel, deploy the gun in its tripod.. and to move again has to go through the same animation in reverse...time to set up gun: 4 seconds), and each shot has a random chance to inflict: stun, dizzy, knockdown,supression fire, panic shot, blind, bleed effects on target.. random as to which one will be inflicted on target per shot, but one of those WILL be inflicted on target.


This would give the commando a weapon that can be used as pure support in pve and pvp, without it being the 1shot killing machine... and it would be loads of fun.





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tnarb
Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:03 pm
#2

Why bother? If they are too lazy to actually fix the mods not stacking, the graphics, the horrible range mods on the weapon itself as well as the delay special what makes you think they would take the HAR out and put in something totaly different? But then again SOE has been known to do odd things. If I sound spiteful I do not mean to be.


I in fact would love it if they either fixed the HAR or took it out and added what you are mentioning but knowing SOE's track record it is highly doubtful. Then again if they did add it in they would prolly give us a x5 multiplier against melee and take away the melee defense mod we get at Master heh.

Tal-N
Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:20 pm
#3

Anice rapid fire support weapon would be a real assest, maybe even something which seems alot like a mini-gun (even though thats a factional weapon when it comes to the infantry ones)



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LordSeckmoth
Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:35 pm
#4

It's called the E-Web Blaster, you may have seen them in the Battle of Hoth during "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back". I would also love to see this ingame, but this would be a long project, and if started today.... well we'd probably have it in January at the earliest.


BUT I would love to see this happen, this is what Commando needs *I was Commando pre-fix patch, but didn't Master until recently, out of disgust *, and I think it would be a fun element. Though I could understand a 5x Melee damage penalty while using this, or maybe make this the 2.5x and change normal to 1.5x, because we have to set up and steady to fire the thing.

Townnut
Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:43 am
#5

that would be cool, a nice repeater weapon for support, id use it





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OrobasWats
Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:48 am
#6

oooh, a mini-gun, that would be so neat!


don't overpower it, and it doesn't really need any specials of it's own (maybe let it use carbine ones?)


say50% moredamage than a good Launcher Pistol, 1.0, high ham if you do have specials, close range, I want one!




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Zarkonan
Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:10 am
#7

I don't think the HAR is going anywhere. i have a proposal that i haven't seen before to fix it (shameless plug)... that said...



I LOVE the idea of implementing the E-Web. Why its not currently in-game is beyond me. I like your proposal of fan shot and low rapid damage, although really instead of various effects it should only dish out Suppression Fire, forcing characers to kneeling, keeping them pinned down. Seriously- how great would that be?



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creativeanalyst
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:10 am
#8

Funny, I was just thinking this the other Day. But, 1.0 speed is too slow..... I would say .3-.5 speed if the hit points are going to be 20-50 per hit.



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creativeanalyst
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:11 am
#9

What about the weapons used by clone troopers in Ep 2? They were SUPER RAPID FIRE.... And weren't there some Commando Units as well?



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SeveronDarkstar
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:18 am
#10

That'd be veeery nice.
LordSeckmoth
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:54 am
#11

Ooo yah, the repeater rifles, nice!
EcadMistflier
Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:40 pm
#12

Bring it on!! Very cool idea. Rapid fire, medium to low damage, KD or stun effect wide or "cone" AoE. Very nice! WOOT! I'll buy two!!



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Yachew
Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:19 pm
#13

Thats the best idea in a long time. That would be the coolest weapon in the game, even if its not the best. Imagine the screenshots of a commando with 15 tuskin raiders runnnin at him up hill n hes jus gattin em. This would be so awesome.


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