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Thread: Rumor Mill: Could this be the real reason why the Docs haven't been released?

LuciusScipio
Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:01 pm
#1

I was surfing through Gamespot's website and came across this:


http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/15/news_6110731.html


Look at Rumor #4. I think Garvin answered a prior rumor that SOE and Lucas Arts was going to 'divorce'. He gave a good enough answer as to why he doubts it...However, it seems that the rumor is still alive...and that it's not just alive, but that a respected gaming site has now made reference to it.


If it turns out to be true, then this could be the real reason why the Devs have suddenly become quiet re: the Docs...It could be more than just their desire for us to simply focus on JTL...It could be that a much bigger shake-up is coming down the line and all game related changes will now run through LucasArts...I'm not saying that this is definitely the case but just wanted to throw some fuel to the fire and refer to another possibility as to why we have heard nothing from the Devs about the revamp...We'll know on the 27th.






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garvin
Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:08 pm
#2

If you read their take on it, even GameSpot says they think the rumor is Bogus...


Also I found GarVa's response to the rumor which matches a lot of what I said...




I still strongly believe the rumor is false...The Devs have told us Correspondents that the Rumor is false...They could be lying of course (big events like this tend to get that kind of treatment in the big biz world) butto many things in the rumor just don't fit...like being based on that job posting which the Rumor stated was a new position, yet those who know SOE and those at the Summit know that the Position isn't new...


You are right though...hopefully, either way, this rumor will be put to rest at the end of this month...



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LuciusScipio
Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:42 pm
#3

Yea, we'll know on the 27th...and anyway, gossip isn't my forte, although I couldn't help but post this one when I came across it. hehe...I think your assumption is probably accurate although anything is possible in that type of world like you said...This may have just risen from the job posting rumor although I find it alittle funny that Gamespot would bother to repeat it. Well, what else is there to say? Time will tell.



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RankorCity
Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:15 am
#4

Well, when reading press releases, you have to be able to read between the lines (kind of like when a dev posts here)...


To wit...


"There is absolutely no change in the business relationship between LucasArts and SOE"


Sure, there is no change right now. Thebusiness relationshipcan be to dissolve the LA/SOE partnership after JTL. No split announcement would be made until the very last minute as to have as little effect on the stock as possible.


However, notice what they didnt say:


  • There is absolutely no change in the business relationship between LucasArts and SOE, and there is no anticipated change after the launch of JTL.

  • There is absolutely no change in the business relationship between LucasArts and SOE, and there is no anticipated change our relationship in the near future

  • The rumors of the impending split of LA and SOE are completely false.

The one-liner approach bothers me, as it reads exactly like an update given by the devs in patch notes and such. Whoever is in the PR and communications department at SOE needs to be shot.




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Skeptic666
Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:37 am
#5

Its becuase they are all big meany heads. And I think they used all the docs for TP by mistake



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KnightHawk420
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:29 pm
#6

Those who came up with this rumor don't know how to read, those who perpetuate it just believe them.... /sigh



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StarNick
Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:31 pm
#7




Whoever is in the PR and communications department at SOE needs to be shot.




Lol...




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RankorCity
Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:37 pm
#8






KnightHawk420 wrote:

Those who came up with this rumor don't know how to read, those who perpetuate it just believe them.... /sigh





I am not saying I believe it. Hell, I dont believe ANYTHING said outside the game by the powers that be until I actually see it.


But look at it objectively...


"There is absolutely no change in the business relationship between LucasArts and SOE"


What this says is: At this time, there is no change in effect between the business relationship of LA and SOE.


That doesn't mean that about 10 days from now, a change WILL be in effect. Like I said...An announced split would cause both companies stock to drop earlier than they want (because they know it will). Its not so much that they are worried about players leaving the game because of the split.


Any statement made by the yahoo's in charge of this game should be taken with a grain of salt, given their past history of misleading the players. These guys and gals do nothing but send cryptic messages everytime they post something. Its rare that when a change in the game happens, that it is as thoroughly explained as it should be. All too often this leaves too much guesswork, and leads to alot of easily avoidable flame/rant posts if they would take the extra five minutes to explain fully what the change is, and what it will or is expected to affect.


As I stated earlier, there is ALOT this statement doesn't say....







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LuciusScipio
Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:05 am
#9






RankorCity wrote:


As I stated earlier, there is ALOT this statement doesn't say....




Yea, and as my grandpappy used to say "silence is louder than words"...or something along those lines.


Still, this is just a rumor...and rumors and assumptions can often start when there isn't a whole lot of communication going on...which leads to what other people are saying: We wouldn't have alot of this if SOE would just tell us what's going on!






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IdrisTycho
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:21 pm
#10

This rumor was started by a post in the SWG forums and was sparked bythe following job posting:


Lucas Arts job posting for SWG senior director position


The funny thing is, if you read the job description, it's clear that the job is working directly for the Lucase Arts president, not SOE. It is also clear that the job is a NEW position at Lucas Arts, not someone getting canned or whatever. People just want to believe that there will be a major management shakedown. But, the reality is that it couldn't be further from the truth.


The new position at Lucas Arts looks to be nothing more than a liason/manager type position between the Lucas Arts president, SOE, and the marketing/art departments at Lucas Arts. I find it amusing that people will jump to conclusions about something like this without reading it carefully, and also that others will blindly believe the bogus rumors that they spout off since they SOOOO want to believe.

Galaticmasta
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:29 pm
#11

this is way off topic but garvin have you read the post and the pre-jtl
Galaticmasta
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:30 pm
#12


his is way off topic but garvin have you read the post and the pre-jtl publish notes ( before i say anything else i might say that this could be a joke and im extremely stupid or this could have been an update today i dont havn't been on all day so i dont know) is any of that true??
garvin
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:38 pm
#13






Galaticmasta wrote:


his is way off topic but garvin have you read the post and the pre-jtl publish notes ( before i say anything else i might say that this could be a joke and im extremely stupid or this could have been an update today i dont havn't been on all day so i dont know) is any of that true??





I'm pretty sure the pre-jtl post is a joke...read down to Commandos putting Grenades in people's pockets...I thought that was quite creative...


There are some other various rumors floating around about new ground weapons being introduced with JTL's release...So far anyone on Beta knows these rumors are false...Typically the Devs will test new weapons on the Test Severs before they go live and since we haven't seen them in beta, let alone any ground combat changes, I doubt these are anything more then just rumors...I would find it hard to believe the Devs would introduce any new game elements to the live servers without testing them first (JTL's release, after all, is only 8 days away)...




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