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Thread: Stop moaning

godsith
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:28 am
#1



My name is Mathieu.. Can we be friends?
blacke
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:24 am
#2

flamebait??






Tizzossk Dun'Daro -- Master Commando / Master Bounty Hunter / 0400 Carbiner -- Rebel Colonel
Katabhi -- future Pikewoman / Master CH

WEP0N
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:25 am
#3

Help ... i've been nerfed and cant get up ... help me Obi StarNick.. your our only hope!!!



Mannoroth BlackTalon
BlackTalon's of BloodFin
Master Commado
Master Rifleman
Smuggler
DragonRider24
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:33 am
#4

um... go crawl back under the bridge from whence ye came!




D'orn Katar
Imperium Securis
Imperial Shock Trooper
| First Responder | Master Carbineer | Master Commando |
-I support letting the rabbit get the bloody Trix.You can too!

WEP0N
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:40 am
#5

see unlike your profession godsith we dont even get updates to our profession, not even a red-name hinting at them. So in a way i guess were kinda PermaNerf'ed......



Mannoroth BlackTalon
BlackTalon's of BloodFin
Master Commado
Master Rifleman
Smuggler
Warmaker01
Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:28 am
#6

Another Jedi dog... and the prairie's full of them.

Say, after glancing at your avatar, I'm curious: You're not an aspiring Jedi-wannabe, are you? You're still not upset about the Grenade / Combat XPs exchange thing, right?

Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 08-24-2005 11:29 AM

TK-132
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:01 pm
#7

Mmm kay...

*Throws an old Proton Rifle at godsith*

There ya go an old Proton Rifle. Is that nerf enough of a challenge?

No?

Hmm how bout some Grenades. Yea you can only throw em every minute. And they do like what 800 Damage if you lucky? Oh yea no more Combat XP he he he he!

How bout the PFT. Yea massive damage there. So uber powered liek for teh win 111! AoE only doing 50 Damage yet ticking off all the NPCs around ya. Mmm SAC of 120 on average...

Are you challenged?



Major Bluko Oll
Imperial High Command
Master Commando
Black Epsilon Ace

"Many things are said, but few are true."
StarNick
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:14 pm
#8

Ironic a poster with a lightsaber icon is saying stop moaning, while for example, some forums were nearly in open revolt because Marabi belts were reclassified with Publish 22 (might be a bug...) and combat xp to FS was changed from 3:1 to 30:1 (because non-commandos were abusing our grenades).

Godsith, go to the forums where there is moaning...Commando's don't moan. We complain alright, but after 2 years of waiting for a CU that only introduced a host of new problems for the profession and didn't lift us out of the gutter, don't you think there is a right to complain? Besides, we don't irrationally whine...we rationally complain, then make a revamp thread before blowing something up...we actually give input and feedback, and generate ideas. Not just a few of us, but all of us.

So which forum is next? The Squad leaders and rangers, who are worse off than us? Are you going to tell them to stop moaning, because like us they have recieved very little attention, when they require tons of it?

Message Edited by StarNick on 08-24-2005 05:15 PM



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--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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ipp350
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:15 pm
#9

You guys just don't get it do you. Jedi suffer from weak weapons due to premium pearls not dropping. This is game breaking. How long would any other profession take to get a fix if a major weapon wasn't working? Actually, how long did it take to get the acid stream launcher working waaaaay back in the day. Guess the jedi forgot about that one /snicker







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StarNick
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:24 pm
#10

Two months after launch, our Launcher Pistol wasn't giving HW XP...and to top it off, our normal FT and HAR were so low in damage, that they did 200 points worth to nuna's because we could only use them with 2 types of specials that were later in the profession. Hundreds of thousands of xp had to be grinded out in a painful manner of shooting your FT or HAR, then falling back to another weapon...

Then after that, we were given the 2.5x melee damage vs rifles/HW...while our specials were 17 meters (back then lunge hit for I think up to 20 meters).

Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Ive heard that the LS speeds are working, and they should be fixed rightfully so, but the amount of moaning and whining that is generated over premium pearls...they should count their blessings of defense and healing potential in their templates (yeah you don't have to go master defender or master powers, but hey...we got a damage potential to!).

So I say this...PFFFFFFFTTTTT



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

Warmaker01
Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:19 am
#11


ipp350 wrote:
You guys just don't get it do you. Jedi suffer from weak weapons due to premium pearls not dropping. This is game breaking. How long would any other profession take to get a fix if a major weapon wasn't working? Actually, how long did it take to get the acid stream launcher working waaaaay back in the day. Guess the jedi forgot about that one /snicker




Suffering Jedi, yeah right.
(Glances around at the batallions of Jedi running around)
(Counts the publishes dedicated to Jedi)
(Considers the gradual removal of penalties to Jedi deaths)
(Considers the luring by the devs to make Bounty Hunters into Lara Croft-"Treasure Hunters")
(Considers the new Expansion Pack will be Jedi-Centric... W-T-F happened to Hoth?)
(Considers that the "Game Broken Jedi" dominate the GCW)
/sarcasm Yeah, the Jedi are suffering alright.

According to your Forum registration date, and if indeed you are the same player that signed up on that date, then you might remember a bit of Commando's situation from back then (You registered before I did. I came aboard Feb.2004).

When I came aboard, Commando was roaring pretty good. Good damage and DOTs. That got nerfed.

I finally became Commando and as I climbed my way to Master Commando, to my horror I discovered many broken things about the profession.
- Grenades do squat. For some sadistic reason, I have a greater chance of incapping myself when I throw a Grenade at a target (PVP or PVE). The Grenade will miss the target, but as the target closes, I'm now in my own blast radius. BOOM! Incapped Commando.

- So, Grenades are borked and that makes the Field Tactics line pretty useless. Also, a stack of 5 isn't much for Grenades.

- The xXxx tree was completely useless. Not a single redeeming thing in that tree back then.

- The xxXx tree, the Flame IV tree gave us our only worthwhile weapon. The Flamethrower. But, oops! 90% Composite! An AP0 weapon! Never mind!

- The xxxX tree, our Acid Weapons tree, gave us the Hvy.Acid Rifle. Now, it worked and had the same limitations as the Flamethrower, but it was completely worthless. Why? No DOTs.

- Melee Bonus when attacking someone equipped with a Ranged Weapon. What makes this sad is that Commando's only worthwhile weapon, the Flamethrower, has a range of about 19m. That's a shorter range than the Melee Lunges out there.

- Consumeable Hvy.Weapons. Yes, the numbers and damage stats look impressive, but there's one thing: You won't hit anything. Plus, the Rocket Launcher is very tedious for Weaponsmiths to make. And it still is.

So, in summary, in the Pre-CU era, we had alot of things wrong with Commando. The Flamethrower was the only decent weapon, and even then, there were severe limitations and hazards (especially considering Melee was the absolute king back then).

In the current CU SWG?
- We're supposed to be a Damage Dealer Profession, in accordance to the docs the devs put out for the CU. But we seem to be a Crowd Control profession. W-T-F?

- Practically all our weapons are area effect (Cone or Radius). That's bad, and I've seen more than enough Commandos get kicked out of a group for pulling out a Hvy.Weapon.

- Elemental Damage doesn't work. 1!
/HomerSimpsonVoice Woohoo! Now THAT'S damage!

- Grenades still aren't worthwhile, except for the Force Sensitive Combat XP monkeys. And the Grenades are still in stacks of 5.

- Commando gets no Specials...!?!?!

- Commando gets the severest encumberance with a Hvy.Weapon equipped.

- Did I already complain on our lack of ability to do respectable damage?

- Some type of Flamethrower is still our most reliable weapon. Everything else is too weak, pathetic, or too low a CL weapon to be of use in serious fighting.

- The Proton Rifle was quite problematic and only got a fix recently. Even then, there's still Commandos out there with problems with their Proton Rifle.

I think I'm missing some tidbits. But oh well...Damn Jedi.

Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 08-25-2005 01:20 AM

DragonRider24
Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:04 am
#12

pwnt


'nuff said






D'orn Katar
Imperium Securis
Imperial Shock Trooper
| First Responder | Master Carbineer | Master Commando |
-I support letting the rabbit get the bloody Trix.You can too!

StarNick
Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:23 am
#13

I think he was being sarcastic about jedi suffering warmaker



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

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