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Thread: The Whining Game

Fondler
Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:53 am
#1

Look guys, I realize it's hard waiting this long for the CU, we are all in the same boat on this.

But PLEASE, don't turn the Commando forum into as much of a joke as so many of the other forums here. If all we do is complain about the slow progression of the CU, then we will only get one or two things:

1) a CRAPPY CU full of bugs, leaving us no better of than we are now

2) the scorn of the developers. Yes we are kinda crappy now, but if we give the developers a reason to dislike us, then how well do you think they'll treat us then?

Where we are right now, we stand to gain more than any profession in the game from this revamp, and our primary concern is that it is done RIGHT. If turn this into a "lets flame the devs for delaying the CU more" forum, the only effect we can possibly have is negative.



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aeuralis
Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:38 am
#2

Wanting to be keep informed about the progress of the CURB, IS NOT WHINING!!!.


Posting about the contiunues delays of in progress in the CURB coming even in to testing, IS NOT WHINING!!


Both of those types of post are reasonable given the current facts. If we had only been waiting 3 months I would agree with you but given the fact that we have been waiting over a YEAR for this change and 7 months since they delayed it.


Posting that we are not happy with the continued delays is our right and our duty, IF we do not post about what we are unhappy with the DEV's will never change anything.





Boson Commando/TKM ----- Aeuralis Combat Medic/Doc
Commando's motto: Devs....you ask us not to Rant, but Flames are all we have...
Knightcrest
Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:48 am
#3

Since you created a whining thread. I have one I would like to add to it. I reported the launcher pistol graphical bug for patch 12.1 and it isn't listed on the bugs list even though Tiggs posted after me stating that all bugs up to this point have been noted. I did however see how much mor important lightsaber tails and the difference between orange/brown crystals are....


This forum is just passionate, not whiners to be honest though. So I wouldn't take too much of a post here or there out of angst meaning that the forums would be going down hill.


5 Stars for caring though as someone onestarred you.



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
Novock
Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:34 am
#4

LOL I believe we carry ourselves quite well here. You may not like what is said but nobody is forcing you to read it. Since we are a combat proffession and nearly everything to do with commando is tied up and centered in the CU what do you expect will be the focus of the threads in forum?


What would you rather us talk about about fuzzy kittens and balls of string.




Novock
Cr|mson Kn|ghtsCo-Leader of <-CK->
Tim-bo
Cr|mson Kn|ghts- Architect/Droid Engineer/Merchant

Novock
Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:41 am
#5









Fondler wrote:
If all we do is complain about the slow progression of the CU, then we will only get one or two things:

1) a CRAPPY CU full of bugs, leaving us no better of than we are now
Blame the gamers if the devs fali to deliver? Hrrrmm for over a year we have waited for the fixes to combat and are still waiting having nearly every combat concerned wipe away with the phrase "will be addressed in (insert favorite combat fix title)"



2) the scorn of the developers. Yes we are kinda crappy now, but if we give the developers a reason to dislike us, then how well do you think they'll treat us then?
I really could care less if they like me or dislike me. I pay for a game each month thats needs fixing and until its fixed I plan to speak out. If nothing else they will get $15 worth of mind.








The more I read this post the more fired up I'm getting. I just don't understand what you achieve by trying to place the blame of SOE failed communication or development on the players. We are not the ones that decided to continual delay combat fixes they brought it on themselves. To think I'm going to sit back with a grin on my face and have nothing to say well..... not me.

Message Edited by Novock on 01-27-2005 10:41 AM



Novock
Cr|mson Kn|ghtsCo-Leader of <-CK->
Tim-bo
Cr|mson Kn|ghts- Architect/Droid Engineer/Merchant

StarNick
Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:03 pm
#6

For the LP graphical "bug"...Im starting to think thats sorta intended...it IS rather cool...and seems to cut down on lag a bit...


And for everyone, stop yelling!!!!



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Knightcrest
Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:46 pm
#7






StarNick wrote:

For the LP graphical "bug"...Im starting to think thats sorta intended...it IS rather cool...and seems to cut down on lag a bit...


And for everyone, stop yelling!!!!






lol it looks like the rockets fired from it are gonna clothesline the target. I don't lag out when using mine, but if it does reduce lag for others maybe it is a good thing. Just wish they would say something about changing it in patch notes so I don't feel like a moron for reporting it.



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
StarNick
Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:58 pm
#8

Lol



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

garvin
Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:19 pm
#9






TKA-MC wrote:

WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY? With the name of Fondler I imagine him as someone who does not have a girlfriend and drink's alot of Mountain Dew. Son let me inform you here, the Commando form is regaurded as one of the best forums by various Corrospondents and basically all around. Your post is as pointless as Nipples on Males. Go "Fondle" somewhere else.





While I understand the frustration levels and differing opinions, I request that we try to keep things as "friendly" as possible...Whether we agree or disagree with an opinion stated, we shouldn't "personalize" our response, especially in a negative way. I'm not saying this because I'm trying to PC...I'm saying this because I have seen the Mods cracking down on this lately and I don't want to see anyone get in trouble...I also know that "personal attacks" always escalate into more personal attacks which typically results in post locking and player banning (coming from someone who was once banned...yes...I got banned once WHILE I was a correspondent forposting something I really shouldn't have posted).


Plus I feel that we are above that type of thing, but our frustration levels (mine included) make majorly negative reactions totally understandable and not personal in my book...but not everyone else will see it that way...





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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Fondler
Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:43 pm
#10

My sentiments are not directed towards our complaints, they are directed towards the manner in which we are presenting them. I know that we are one of the most respected communities on these forums, and that is somethign that I am rather proud of. My fear is that the manner in which we conduct ourselves is breaking down do to our frustrations, and I feel that this can have a number of negative ramifications on both our reputation, and our future.

If you don't like me because I would like for us to refrain from turning into the GCW forum, then I'm sorry, but my position won't change for you.

Take my comments as you will... all I can say is that they are not meant as an attack, but as a call for restraint. If we cannot restrain ourselves as a group, then we risk damaging our reputation. All I'm trying to do is ensure that the developers maintain a level of respect for us, and through us, for our profession in hopes that our problems DO ultimately get resolved. If you cannot understand that, then again, I'm sorry.

For those amongst us that must resort to personal attacks, then you only are only augmenting the problem against which I speak and so I reiterate; this is not an attack on anyone here personally, but a call to all of us to keep cool in our requests and demands.

We can turn on our selfs and crumble, or we can rely upon one another and succed. Flame me if you want, but know that in doing so, you benefit no one.



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TK-132
Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:29 pm
#11

Not that this is actually SWG.

Nope it's "Whine About Star Wars Things While You Wait"

or WASWTWYW.

Hmm that actually sounds and makes sense!

Oh...

There has been a slight error made with the "Master Commando" Profession title.

We are renaming the profession to it's original title "Fire Master"!

We are excited for this new change and have added a whole new set of skills and tools. (The "Commando" profession was never meant to be involved in Combat sorry for the misconception by our designers)

Fire Masters will now be able to cook for for Chefs and Start Camp fires!

The HAR has been changed to the Heavy Water Rifle for putting out fires.

The Flamethrower is now a Lighter.

The Launcher Pistol is now a fuel pistol to feed cooking and camp fires.

Grenades, rocket launchers, etc. have been changed to tinder and logs to start fires.

Fire Masters also have the ability to "sleep" where they instantly fall on their backs and snore about things to come.

We hope these changes statisfy the Commando community!


Ya gotta wonder sometimes...



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Imperial High Command
Master Commando
Black Epsilon Ace

"Many things are said, but few are true."
MrBulwark
Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:17 am
#12

But I was going to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters.


Do I win?





BULWARK



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TKA-MC
Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:33 am
#13

WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY? With the name of Fondler I imagine him as someone who does not have a girlfriend and drink's alot of Mountain Dew. Son let me inform you here, the Commando form is regaurded as one of the best forums by various Corrospondents and basically all around. Your post is as pointless as Nipples on Males. Go "Fondle" somewhere else.



Dysinn Rahl (Gorath)
MasterCommando/TKM

"Quiquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur." ("Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.")
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