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Thread: Lair bug while grinding combat XP
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Kaiorin
Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:36 am
#1
Hello community!
First off let me say that this post is -not- an attempt to whine about a nerf / bug etc., I am simply trying to see if anyone else is having this problem and under what circumstances it is occuring. Also, I read the boards frequently and have yet to see anyone address this issue, so forgive me if I have simply overlooked a previous topic on this subject.
The issue is question:
Last night I went out to hunt Giant Baz Nitches on Dathomir, using the Grenade tactic to gain Combat XP for conversion to FSXP. Well, I noticed that several times when I initiated the attack on the lair, and stood in the center of it to spawn throwing Thermal Detonators, that the lair would disappear a few seconds later. Now, this problem was not a camera problem at all. When I noticed it, I backed out of the lair and moved around in different directions for several meters, and indeed the lair was completely gone. The waypoint beam was still strong and indicating the lair's location, and the intial spawn of Giant Baz Nitches was surrounding the lair, but there was no further spawn, and the lair was no longer attackable.
To test this occurance for discrepancies, I took several more missions of the same nature (after aborting the first ones) and tried combating the lairs using my power hammer. Every lair thereafter that I attacked with the power hammer, never disappeared or showed any signs of a bug. So my question is this...
Has anyone else experienced this bug? If so, what were the conditions of the situation when it happened? IE., Does it happen on any creature type? Does it happen only while using grenades?
You see, I have concerns that this isn't a "random" combat bug, and that it might be the initial "nerf" so to speak that will illiminate the shortcut in the FS grind that grenade grinding allows us. I personally don't care if they do end up nerfing the grenade grind. While I won't lie, it is great because it shaves time off the grind, I'm not oppos4ed to using my hammer the old fashioned way to grind out my 24 boxes. I want Jedi, and nerf or not I'll grind away.
Again, this isn't a complaining post by any means, so please keep the griefing / flaming down, and try to post positive feedback on whether or not you've experienced this issue. Thanks for your time everyone! Good luck out there with your grinds!
-Arycon Naelis
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
First off let me say that this post is -not- an attempt to whine about a nerf / bug etc., I am simply trying to see if anyone else is having this problem and under what circumstances it is occuring. Also, I read the boards frequently and have yet to see anyone address this issue, so forgive me if I have simply overlooked a previous topic on this subject.
The issue is question:
Last night I went out to hunt Giant Baz Nitches on Dathomir, using the Grenade tactic to gain Combat XP for conversion to FSXP. Well, I noticed that several times when I initiated the attack on the lair, and stood in the center of it to spawn throwing Thermal Detonators, that the lair would disappear a few seconds later. Now, this problem was not a camera problem at all. When I noticed it, I backed out of the lair and moved around in different directions for several meters, and indeed the lair was completely gone. The waypoint beam was still strong and indicating the lair's location, and the intial spawn of Giant Baz Nitches was surrounding the lair, but there was no further spawn, and the lair was no longer attackable.
To test this occurance for discrepancies, I took several more missions of the same nature (after aborting the first ones) and tried combating the lairs using my power hammer. Every lair thereafter that I attacked with the power hammer, never disappeared or showed any signs of a bug. So my question is this...
Has anyone else experienced this bug? If so, what were the conditions of the situation when it happened? IE., Does it happen on any creature type? Does it happen only while using grenades?
You see, I have concerns that this isn't a "random" combat bug, and that it might be the initial "nerf" so to speak that will illiminate the shortcut in the FS grind that grenade grinding allows us. I personally don't care if they do end up nerfing the grenade grind. While I won't lie, it is great because it shaves time off the grind, I'm not oppos4ed to using my hammer the old fashioned way to grind out my 24 boxes. I want Jedi, and nerf or not I'll grind away.
Again, this isn't a complaining post by any means, so please keep the griefing / flaming down, and try to post positive feedback on whether or not you've experienced this issue. Thanks for your time everyone! Good luck out there with your grinds!
-Arycon Naelis
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
Message Edited by Kaiorin on 03-18-2005 09:38 AM
Kaiorin
Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:41 am
#2
Hello community!
First off let me say that this post is -not- an attempt to whine about a nerf / bug etc., I am simply trying to see if anyone else is having this problem and under what circumstances it is occuring. Also, I read the boards frequently and have yet to see anyone address this issue, so forgive me if I have simply overlooked a previous topic on this subject.
The issue is question:
Last night I went out to hunt Giant Baz Nitches on Dathomir, using the Grenade tactic to gain Combat XP for conversion to FSXP. Well, I noticed that several times when I initiated the attack on the lair, and stood in the center of it to spawn throwing Thermal Detonators, that the lair would disappear a few seconds later. Now, this problem was not a camera problem at all. When I noticed it, I backed out of the lair and moved around in different directions for several meters, and indeed the lair was completely gone. The waypoint beam was still strong and indicating the lair's location, and the intial spawn of Giant Baz Nitches was surrounding the lair, but there was no further spawn, and the lair was no longer attackable.
To test this occurance for discrepancies, I took several more missions of the same nature (after aborting the first ones) and tried combating the lairs using my power hammer. Every lair thereafter that I attacked with the power hammer, never disappeared or showed any signs of a bug. So my question is this...
Has anyone else experienced this bug? If so, what were the conditions of the situation when it happened? IE., Does it happen on any creature type? Does it happen only while using grenades?
You see, I have concerns that this isn't a "random" combat bug, and that it might be the initial "nerf" so to speak that will illiminate the shortcut in the FS grind that grenade grinding allows us. I personally don't care if they do end up nerfing the grenade grind. While I won't lie, it is great because it shaves time off the grind, I'm not oppos4ed to using my hammer the old fashioned way to grind out my 24 boxes. I want Jedi, and nerf or not I'll grind away.
Again, this isn't a complaining post by any means, so please keep the griefing / flaming down, and try to post positive feedback on whether or not you've experienced this issue. Thanks for your time everyone! Good luck out there with your grinds!
-Arycon Naelis
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
First off let me say that this post is -not- an attempt to whine about a nerf / bug etc., I am simply trying to see if anyone else is having this problem and under what circumstances it is occuring. Also, I read the boards frequently and have yet to see anyone address this issue, so forgive me if I have simply overlooked a previous topic on this subject.
The issue is question:
Last night I went out to hunt Giant Baz Nitches on Dathomir, using the Grenade tactic to gain Combat XP for conversion to FSXP. Well, I noticed that several times when I initiated the attack on the lair, and stood in the center of it to spawn throwing Thermal Detonators, that the lair would disappear a few seconds later. Now, this problem was not a camera problem at all. When I noticed it, I backed out of the lair and moved around in different directions for several meters, and indeed the lair was completely gone. The waypoint beam was still strong and indicating the lair's location, and the intial spawn of Giant Baz Nitches was surrounding the lair, but there was no further spawn, and the lair was no longer attackable.
To test this occurance for discrepancies, I took several more missions of the same nature (after aborting the first ones) and tried combating the lairs using my power hammer. Every lair thereafter that I attacked with the power hammer, never disappeared or showed any signs of a bug. So my question is this...
Has anyone else experienced this bug? If so, what were the conditions of the situation when it happened? IE., Does it happen on any creature type? Does it happen only while using grenades?
You see, I have concerns that this isn't a "random" combat bug, and that it might be the initial "nerf" so to speak that will illiminate the shortcut in the FS grind that grenade grinding allows us. I personally don't care if they do end up nerfing the grenade grind. While I won't lie, it is great because it shaves time off the grind, I'm not oppos4ed to using my hammer the old fashioned way to grind out my 24 boxes. I want Jedi, and nerf or not I'll grind away.
Again, this isn't a complaining post by any means, so please keep the griefing / flaming down, and try to post positive feedback on whether or not you've experienced this issue. Thanks for your time everyone! Good luck out there with your grinds!
-Arycon Naelis
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
BleuHarst
Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:08 am
#3
Happened to me on Wednesday night. I just went and killed everything else around the lair, and came back and it was there. It is still frustrating, though....I have a schedule to keep and rinsing to do.
JoKen_Jash
Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:25 am
#4
I don't think it's complaining you're going to be worried about... it's the fact that you're using Commando to get FS xp in the first place...
But for constructiveness' sake, no, I haven't encountered this bug.
Steiney
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:07 am
#6
Had the same thing happen to me, but went to the next mission I had, finished that one and went back to the first. It was there when I cam back. I finished it off, but have not seen that bug again. From what i hear from you, I will probably see it again. Seems the best thing to do, is to leave it when it disappears and let it respawn.
Steiney
starcrusher04
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:12 am
#7
I have been having this same problem. MAKE SURE YOU SUBMIT A /BUG WHEN THIS HAPPENS. Customer Service/devs need to know about this stuff so it gets fixed quickly.
I am also seeing a problem lately with my first lair not respawning creatures when I return to it after milking the 2nd lair. I haven't ever experienced this prior to last week. It might be a bug, or could be a number of other things on my end.
LordZahn
Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:38 pm
#8
This is abuf that has been around for some time. I believe that it has to do with server lines. I find that whenI take missions out of certain towns and go in certain directions it tends to do it alot. Just try moving to different location or taking mission in different direction. Works for me.
Kaiorin
Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:07 pm
#9
Thanks for the replies everyone. It's nice to know this is a known issue that hasn't just been happening recently. And yes, I did make sure I submited it to the Customer Service vie the /bug command. Hopefully it was just a server line or a random bug issue. I'll make sure I try the trick of heading to the second lair, and going to back later ot the first to see if it reappeared.
-Arycon
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
-Arycon
Former Master Entertainer / Dancer / Musician
Currently Master Swordsman; Commando 4-0-0-0; TKA Novice
Aspiring Jedi Initiate
There is no emotion; There is peace
There is no ignorance; There is knowledge
There is no passion; There is serenity
There is no death; There is the Force
MinimeAbala
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:23 am
#10
its actually a but thats been in for quite some time now. probobly a few months id say. it doesnt happen to often, but it is very annoying. try going out of range of it like your trying to milk it then come back. alot of times iv found its either a lag problem, server boundery or its just being glitched, possibly by the terrain its on.
Rioroute
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:44 am
#11
i have also had the problem where the creatures do not respawn at the first lair after milking the second lair, thus forcing me to bring the lair to half-health to kill the last 5. i figured it was because i didn't give it enough time, but it happened again, and i was sure i left it alone for long enough
i also get a bug where my nades dont do any damage to some creatures, even though they aggro me, are attacking me, i see their HAM bars, and they are in the blast radius. and they dont start taking damage until either another creature dies or i stop throwing nades and hit them with my hammer. i think it's a bug thathas something to do with the "only 5 creatures can be attacking you at any given time."
btw, there is a way to get around the "only 5 creatures can be attacking you at any given time" rule, because ive actually had 8 attacking me simultaneously. if some of your creatures start attacking another creature while you're smashing the lair, you can kill the creature theyre attacking, then they'll attack you and you can bring them to the lair with the other 5. it helps a little with saving nades.
LittleChuck
Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:25 am
#12
It was the commando God moving the lairs. It doesn't like AFK grinders either
Used many grenades over the last week. No problems on my end. Did notice a biglag time for a lair to appear after I reached the wp. But that was probably due to AFK grinders
Cpl_Fisher
Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:33 pm
#13
Dougful wrote:
it was me, i used the magical powers of the inner sanctum of the master commando profession to hide the lairs from
you who abuses what this profession is meant for
meh that takes to much thought. I just KS FS monkeys Lairs.
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