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Master Pistoleer

Master Fencer

Smuggler Dirty Fighting Line

If so how well do you do in pve and pvp, whats the pros/cons what profession do you have trouble with in pvp, is it better than a TKM/MDoc etc...

Thank you.

Master Pistoleer

Master Fencer

Smuggler Dirty Fighting Line

If so how well do you do in pve and pvp, whats the pros/cons what profession do you have trouble with in pvp, is it better than a TKM/MDoc etc...

Thank you.

From what I have been reading, that seems to be a new up and coming build. Apparently about 210 dodge so that even TKAs will be trouble. Plus you can become centered.

Seems like a good template to me but the only thing I'd want out of fencer is the ranged defense. Your template is nice in that you have a ranged knockdown and a delay shot then run up and use fencer skills to beat the tar out of your opponent. I do something similar in that I run up and Flame single 2 them. Works about as good but I have hardly any ranged or melee defenses.

thanks for your input guys.

i have heard many great things about this combo (mostly the 200+ or so dodge you get, the smuggler dirty fighting line is great for pistol specials, however if you REALLY want to whoop up on something at close range, TKA is still the best (even without the dodge).

My only advice is to wait and see what happens with fencer/pikemen/swordsman with all the new changes coming up... they could make fencer more up to par with TKA, or they could nerf the heck out of both of them... the dodge stacking from Pistoleer / Fencer might be changed...

Like many others, we patiently wait...

Remember, you have to come out of One-Handed CoB in order to use the KD/Delay in the Smuggler line (it only lasts a few seconds after switching from one-handed to pistol); the advantage of having that line compared with most Brawlers, of course, is that you cannot be kited and should still win at range, spamming the shots with Master Pistoleer speed and accuracy.

The "I win buttons" in the Master Brawler box are 20m max compared to 64m for Low Blow/Panic Shot, but you do not have to come out of CoB to use them. And contrary to popular belief, you can be hit, although less than half the time,in both PvE (at least by some things) and PvP with just the +210 Dodge/+115 or so Melee Defence that this template provides. As for +210 Dodge with CoB on, um, I don't want to many people to know what you can do with that...

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InTylerWeTrust wrote:
the dodge stacking from Pistoleer / Fencer might be changed...

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Is the change coming in the Vehicle/Combat patch or another one after?

I have heard by some people that a Fencer can woop a TKA in pvp and a Fencer is a better tank as well.

mine is close

master smuggler

master fencer (0102 now...)

pistoleer 0443

i don't know if a change is coming or not...

but it seems to me like they will probably make only the pistol dodge skill mods work when you have a pistol equip and the fencer dodge mods when you have a fencing sword...

but again, i'll I have heard is talk of them doing this, no official dev response to it (that I know of)

i read the patch notes for this patch and there was nothing aboutthis...

so IF (again IF) they do make this change it will probably be part of the huge combat rebalance/rework

This is a great template right now. Just be aware that the Dodge modifiers from Pistoleer and Fencer may not continue to stack in the future, so proceed at your own risk.

thanks guys,

kinda got me thinking twice about weather I shoulduse thistemplate now.