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Thread: DEAR COMMANDO CORRESPONDENT....

xxsyrusvb
Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:09 am
#1

Please speak to the devs about the item decay thing. Its just not fair to combat classes. I think something has to be done with people not caring if they die or not but come on, say i spend 25k on a flame thrower and it is basically gone because on my way to my house from a city i get chased and killed by maybe a big evil monster. I dunno just speak to them about it. I feel like our voices cant and arnt being heard and it just doesnt make sense. your our only hope....



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--Master TKM, Master Doctor--

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Paycheck
Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:51 am
#2

Geez you know ... you should be insuring such an expensive weapon.


That being the case only 1% is decayed. 1 freaking percent.


Who cares ?


If your weapon condition is 1000/1000 and you die.


It would now be 990/1000


Oh no ... it's the end of the world


If you didn't insure it would be


950/1000


Again ... oh no ....


Weapons get used and break with time.


Currently death is an exploited transport system. It should hurt like hell to die. This is very minor. I'd rather this than a corpse run and risk dying again and again getting my corpse and only have a limited time to retreiving it or I lose EVERYTHING.


I'd rather this minor loss of condition to my weapon than losing a ton of xp.


Ivoni
Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:58 am
#3

Personally I care a lot. I think it's horrid.

I die several times a day. Anyone who plays on the high end does.

I think this is the poorest excuse I've ever seen for a death penalty.

Especially when you toss in the fact that repairing guns/armor fails more often than not. I could live with a 5% fail on guns with 95% kit, but it seems to be more along the lines of 25% regardless of the quality of your repair kit.

Oh, and then there's the armor.

And your clothes.

Not to mention the fact that if you get wounds and pay for cloning, your brand new clone starts off with those wounds.

Dying has penalties. If they could just fix the stupid corpse bugs, having to do corpse runs would be enough.

Shrug.



Ivoni the Bunny Slayer
1st Master Commando on Intrepid (retired for jedi hunt)
1st Holocron - Master Ranger (done)
2nd Holocron - Master Squad Leader (done)
3rd Holocron - SILENT (100k wasted)
Mishap
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:18 am
#4

Time is the most valuable asset we have. Unlike money or other tangible items, time can not be retrieved once it is lost. With that in mind I think time is penalty enough for dieing.


Why are the devs and a select few players dead set on causing an in-game penalty to cause real life reprocussions?


Why must I be "punished"while playing a game?


This concept is assinine.We have to wait 10 up to ten minutes per shuttle (yesterday I was on Lok and needed to get to Dantooine, with piss poor timing it took me almost 30 minutes to get there). We have to wait in a hospital to lose wounds after death. Then we have to wait in a cantina to lose more wounds and battle fatigue. Then I have travel time to get back to my previous location.


What happened to this game being designed for the casual gamer as originally stated?


Ivoni is correct, for those of us that push the envelope when we play it is possible to die frequently. 1-5% will add up and there is no reliable way to counter this since repair are often more fatal than helpful. This change will effect combat in a very negative way.




Misfortune
TKA/Doctor- Radiant
Paycheck
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:29 am
#5






Mishap wrote:

Time is the most valuable asset we have. Unlike money or other tangible items, time can not be retrieved once it is lost. With that in mind I think time is penalty enough for dieing.


Why are the devs and a select few players dead set on causing an in-game penalty to cause real life reprocussions?


Why must I be "punished"while playing a game?


This concept is assinine.We have to wait 10 up to ten minutes per shuttle (yesterday I was on Lok and needed to get to Dantooine, with piss poor timing it took me almost 30 minutes to get there). We have to wait in a hospital to lose wounds after death. Then we have to wait in a cantina to lose more wounds and battle fatigue. Then I have travel time to get back to my previous location.


What happened to this game being designed for the casual gamer as originally stated?


Ivoni is correct, for those of us that push the envelope when we play it is possible to die frequently. 1-5% will add up and there is no reliable way to counter this since repair are often more fatal than helpful. This change will effect combat in a very negative way.







Well if catering to casual gamers is the key than time should not be the consequence.


Maybe the dev's plan to patch the repair kits along with the item decaying ?


I find it weird we don't even require food or water, we should need a constant supply of food. Scouts being able to forage would be helpfull.


bikebum
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:43 am
#6

Okay I hate the item decay idea also... The guy who said it was no big deal to lose 1% was wrong. Unless I am just farming cash, the mobs I fight all DB. Since I am not a CH anymore, if I get incapped, I get killed, it is simple. There are usually 2 mobs on me at once, so even if 1 dies, the other will DB me. Okay now if I die 5 times a day, with normal use of my weapons, I am probably down 70 - 100 condition in one day. that means my weapons last 10 - 14 days if they started at 1000 condition (rare most of mine start 900/900 ish). The same thing goes for clothes, armor, etc. If you add it up, on my server, that means I need to spend around 300,000 credits every 2 weeks to maitain my equipment as it is now. Also with the crafter changes, future equipment is going to be significantly lower quality compaired to what we are getting now. Add in the fact that resources change, and you may not actually be able to replace your really good equipment for months.



Equipment decay upon death is wrong as long as there is absolutely no way to continuously repair or replace it at comparitive quality.

Xeromancy
Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:35 am
#7

Bikebum:


I agree with you... death decay is a BAD idea. However, my only point is, with decay, a 10/10 condition item will decay exactly as fast as a 1000000000000000000000000/1000000000000000000000000 item.


And again, I think there's something wrong with that. Maybe make decay a fixed amount, rather than a percentage?


Either way, decay sucks, and shouldn't even be considered.


Athein




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Coorva
Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:38 am
#8

O.K. out of curiousity I went and insured everything in my inventory yesterday just out of curiousity . Three back packs , one with med crates of Stim D's to heal any wound, one with composite armor, one with gernades and WUK,AUK, and Clamps crates of 25. oh, I shouldn'tforget the obligatory commando weapons, Launcher Pistol, Flamethrower, HAR, Grenades, 2 heavy particle beams (32 each pack) , 2 rockets launchers, and pistols one DX-2 and a FWG5. Grand total 26000 to insure, thankfully it takes me 2.5 faction missions due to being a slicer to rack this kind of cash up. Otherwise, LOL. This is what is in store for us as a group. Thanks SOE.
Slingblade37814
Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:21 pm
#9

they say it will help the economy..mainly non-combat classes?..how does it help armorsmith?...im sellin my composite and never wearin armor again



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Paycheck
Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:44 pm
#10






bikebum wrote:

Okay I hate the item decay idea also... The guy who said it was no big deal to lose 1% was wrong. Unless I am just farming cash, the mobs I fight all DB. Since I am not a CH anymore, if I get incapped, I get killed, it is simple. There are usually 2 mobs on me at once, so even if 1 dies, the other will DB me. Okay now if I die 5 times a day, with normal use of my weapons, I am probably down 70 - 100 condition in one day. that means my weapons last 10 - 14 days if they started at 1000 condition (rare most of mine start 900/900 ish). The same thing goes for clothes, armor, etc. If you add it up, on my server, that means I need to spend around 300,000 credits every 2 weeks to maitain my equipment as it is now. Also with the crafter changes, future equipment is going to be significantly lower quality compaired to what we are getting now. Add in the fact that resources change, and you may not actually be able to replace your really good equipment for months.



Equipment decay upon death is wrong as long as there is absolutely no way to continuously repair or replace it at comparitive quality.






Do you think perhaps your dying 5 times a day because there is no penalty to dying ?


So your not scared of being DB'd ... you'll play far more risky than you should.


Perhaps you'll be more carefull with decay ?



Rather than moan about it, come up with a better alternative. Either way, something needs to be done about dying. And I really don't want to see corpse runs ... They sucked, They sucked in Everquest. Sometimes you would lose your corpse (didn't remember where it is) and you lost all your loot.

xxsyrusvb
Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:17 pm
#11

I agree somethin DOES need to be done....item decay IS NOT IT!!! Destroying MY items even stuff that isnt equiped is bull **edit** and i dont agree with it at all. SOE is over a million dollar corporation iam sure there geniuses there can figure something out. The worst part of this is that i think its goin to happen regardless of how many people hate the idea....



---Syrus'Odin Awa---


--Master TKM, Master Doctor--

Helping the world, one buff at a time...
maddogs
Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:37 pm
#12

who the hell is this basterd paycheck frickin idet i wish i could ban him


i tell you there should be no death pantelty at all i wall out to see the sarlac pit 4000m out long wall i get out there there ant nothing worth seeing defintly not worth the time i spent wallking there !!! and now they whant me to wallk all the way back heck no i ant wasting my time db me


this game has 100 and 1 millon time wasters in it the fast travel back is only fare




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Kaasa
Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:30 pm
#13

SOE GET A GRIP!



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