Combat Medic Archive
Thread: PVP vs Combat medics
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Puttley
Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:38 am
#1
i'm hoping that this might be a good place to ask for some advice on pvp against you all. the problem i have is i pvp against good, (non CM) templated guys and have decent fights, against jedi and come out well after a decent and worthwile fight. but every time i pvp againts a CM i loose. almost what ever i do or what ever level they are at. i'm hit with a huge un-healable 700 tick mind poison then wheather they 'honourably' fight me after or just wait i WILL DIE. in little over 5 or 6 seconds. no this is just the proffesion, live with it, get some good resists, stack better and get better weapons you might say but i have. i last longer against high level jedi Lightsaber masters.
enough of the rant, is there anyway you all might be willing to spill the beans, even a little on ways i can ballance the situation a little?
enough of the rant, is there anyway you all might be willing to spill the beans, even a little on ways i can ballance the situation a little?
teamdoa
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:06 am
#2
Well, one on one, the CM will most likely win if you cant heal DOTS. I had a template where I spent a great deal of skill points just to heal poison and fire. Later I decided, why the hell should I spend all those skill points just so I can heal some poison and fire, so I dropped it. It's the same with chumps that ask you for a dual at the starport and they have a DOT mind fire weapons..I mean, what is the point in even bothering to dual them if you cant heal the poison or fire. Unless you have an Uber weapon its not even worth the time.
I think at the end of the day, you either spend a load of your skill points on doc, or you always PVP with a doc. Yeah you can get poison resist buffs, but good posions will easily get by them, plus the buffs just dont last long enough to even bother.
Like you say, pvping against someone who uses dots isnt much fun, so the simple solution is pick up doc, or just dont pvp at all, because PVP is all the same these days JEDI and combat medics.
Message Edited by teamdoa on 03-04-2005 11:09 AM
Puttley
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:13 am
#3
it just seems a shame to me, i like to be able to have a good fight (that lasts a little while at least) with everyone who is willing. though now increasingly i'm going off it untill i can make a list of ALL Combat medics on my server and then never PVP with them. sadly the only people since the TEF upgrade and even before who would walk about declaired were CM anyhow. who wants to die guaranteed in under 10 seconds! all i ask is for the developers to lower the strength of some of the poisons, or even better still provide a skill somewhere to learn to dodge poison thrown at you.
teamdoa
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:24 am
#4
People always want the "I win" button. The simple truth is you pick up doc to heal what you throw, and the two lines in combat medic, mix it with a Melee proffession and your good to go. I've done the same template, it got old fast......
Elitekrieger
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:28 am
#5
OH another nerf call. How unexpected 
1. PvP is teamwork
2. get a doc in your team
3. stop whining, eat more cheese
In case you have to solo one... cm takes a lot of skillpoints and doesnt allow much stacking. and when lying on his back a cm cant throw blue balls...
teamdoa
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:58 am
#6
I think the point is that you can Master, lets say...Fencer, go doc for healing poisons, then Combat medic to apply the poison. Pick up some Spider Venom, and you can beat most people one on one. Combats medics aint the problem, dabblers are.
Elitekrieger
Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:14 am
#7
Well... no. One on one a poison and disease resist buff can give you enough time to score a knockdown. Sure a combat medic dabbler is good at dueling but not unbeatable.
Trizusho
Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:14 am
#8
On my server (Shadowfire) there is a whole guild that is dedicated to cm dabblers. It got to the point where i dont pvp cause i cant have a doc on 24/7 so it ends up being no fun. It sure would be nice if it dots where nerfed a lil so we can still have fun with our templates that are non cm's.This comes from a non stacker point of view as well.
aMeRiKa
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:46 am
#9
Elitekrieger wrote:
OH another nerf call. How unexpected
1. PvP is teamwork
2. get a doc in your team
3. stop whining, eat more cheese
In case you have to solo one... cm takes a lot of skillpoints and doesnt allow much stacking. and when lying on his back a cm cant throw blue balls...
CM can't stack? LOL. Just because we cant stack a melee profession doesnt mean we cant eat some thatkitlo and not get KD'd. and even when we are postured down, we can still throw a poison and regardless of how dizzy we are, the action of throwing the poison will cancel the dizzy. I can stack upto 3.5k if I ahve to.
Mild-Breeze-Trooper
Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:21 pm
#10
/Knockdown attack
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
/power attack
Or the more stylish
/posture down attack
/posture down attack
/dizzy attack
/knock down attack
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
Works best if you are Master Carb/BH-Carb (or MBH) but most weapon types have similar attacks.
Ranged weapons is to prefer as you'll have the chance to be first, and then won't be poisoned or diseased at all.
But since you must be hit by both (which leaves you about four seconds IIRC to react when diseased... (I'd disease first, poison later.)) to be incapped you might be able to win with melee as well (lunge is a good attack here, it was a while since I was in game but IIRC you have to stand to poison, if kneeling throws are possible... go for the full prone).
To avoid Incap, always carry a shot of moun ready for rigth after the poison has ticked. Make sure you have room for a sip of more brandy and it helps being a Zabrak. (even Vitalize migth buy you some extra time if you're lucky)
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
/power attack
Or the more stylish
/posture down attack
/posture down attack
/dizzy attack
/knock down attack
/dizzy attack
/dizzy attack
Works best if you are Master Carb/BH-Carb (or MBH) but most weapon types have similar attacks.
Ranged weapons is to prefer as you'll have the chance to be first, and then won't be poisoned or diseased at all.
But since you must be hit by both (which leaves you about four seconds IIRC to react when diseased... (I'd disease first, poison later.)) to be incapped you might be able to win with melee as well (lunge is a good attack here, it was a while since I was in game but IIRC you have to stand to poison, if kneeling throws are possible... go for the full prone).
To avoid Incap, always carry a shot of moun ready for rigth after the poison has ticked. Make sure you have room for a sip of more brandy and it helps being a Zabrak. (even Vitalize migth buy you some extra time if you're lucky)
KnightHawk420
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:01 pm
#11
Puttley wrote:
i'm hoping that this might be a good place to ask for some advice on pvp against you all. the problem i have is i pvp against good, (non CM) templated guys and have decent fights, against jedi and come out well after a decent and worthwile fight. but every time i pvp againts a CM i loose. almost what ever i do or what ever level they are at. i'm hit with a huge un-healable 700 tick mind poison then wheather they 'honourably' fight me after or just wait i WILL DIE. in little over 5 or 6 seconds. no this is just the proffesion, live with it, get some good resists, stack better and get better weapons you might say but i have. i last longer against high level jedi Lightsaber masters.
enough of the rant, is there anyway you all might be willing to spill the beans, even a little on ways i can ballance the situation a little?
Oh god how I love people that want and expect to own EVERYBODY.......
Mild-Breeze-Trooper
Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:09 pm
#12
KnightHawk420 wrote:
Puttley wrote:
i'm hoping that this might be a good place to ask for some advice on pvp against you all. the problem i have is i pvp against good, (non CM) templated guys and have decent fights, against jedi and come out well after a decent and worthwile fight. but every time i pvp againts a CM i loose. almost what ever i do or what ever level they are at. i'm hit with a huge un-healable 700 tick mind poison then wheather they 'honourably' fight me after or just wait i WILL DIE. in little over 5 or 6 seconds. no this is just the proffesion, live with it, get some good resists, stack better and get better weapons you might say but i have. i last longer against high level jedi Lightsaber masters.
enough of the rant, is there anyway you all might be willing to spill the beans, even a little on ways i can ballance the situation a little?
Oh god how I love people that want and expect to own EVERYBODY.......
In a good PvP-game the most successfull build is the one that inorporates a well rounded group of at least five people. But of course, who the heck wants to play a MMORPG with other people?
drathon-3
Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:40 pm
#13
we hit it on the head... if you can dizzy kd a cm they cant throw anything on you...
I personaly am a CM and only use mind poisons on jedi and in large pvp fights. I know there are docs there to heal and jedi should get no breaks from some chemical warfare... i mean they can heal it anyways... In ANY dualing I dont bring chemical warfare into it. I mean the reason I became a CM was for these ranged area med packs. I can heal my whole base-take-down group with one stim.
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