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Thread: Consistant Failures with crafting.

Muttons
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:35 pm
#1

Greeting. Been a combat medic for a little while here, and im having difficulty with the crafting. I have been using all high end resources, with the main stats being in the high 700-900, and i still get experimentation failures ALL THE TIME. I would say at least 80% of my experiments reult in moderate failure or worst. Im also using a very high end crafting station (43%), but none of this seems to make much difference. I had 3 critical failures in a row (of stim bs no doubt too, all with advanced components), and at that point i turned the game off. What am i doing wrong? Is experimentation broken or something, cause this is just ridiculous.


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Zarlor
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:03 am
#2

Well currently (pre-Publish 7 which is currently on Test Center and since they are already doing partial pushes to live might come live this week) Critical Failures (whcih can occure during assembly or experimentation) have a flat 5% chance of occuring. Not matter your level, no matter your tool or station ratings. It's 5% no matter what. So that will certainly mess up things to some extent. That will be changing and it will only start at 5% reducing slightly as you move up towards master. Not sure where the final percentage will be, but at least your chances of avoiding it will improve.


Now outside of that 5% is two primary skills. Assembly and Experimentation. Assembly skill modifies you success chances and rates on the initial combine of the item you are crafting. Experimentation modifies you success rates on the experimentation part. Presumably skill tapes, high rated stations, high rated tools,the OQand Maleability rating of your resourcesand city modifiers can modify those success rates to further improve your chances of getting great & amazing successes while reducing yoru chances of getting the standard (non-critical) failure results. Just remember that the Crit Fail result is, effectively, independent of those modifiers so it kinds skews the numbers.


Most often, in my experience,folks who think they are seeing an inordinate amount of crafting or experimentation failures that they had not seen before are usually using a newer resource in their crafting that has a lower Maleability (and/r Overall Quality) than the resources they were using before. So you might want to look at that.





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Arissi Plains, Dantooine - Test Center
Lavendryll
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:11 am
#3

Make sure you are doing 1 experiment at a time...notice, if you try to do more than 1 at a time, failure rate dramatically increases.



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Muttons
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:15 am
#4

now when you say do one experiment at a time, do you mean one "kind of experiment", say, quality or number of charges, or using one "block" of experimentation at at time.



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Zarlor
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:17 am
#5

Oh yeah, good point. He means one experimentation point at a time. It increases the complexity of the item (which effects how long it will take to craft) but it also increases your chance of success at any given press of the button. (Although like I said earlier, the Crit Fail chances are not affected by that at the moment, as it is a flat 5% chance.)



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Lavendryll
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:21 am
#6

Sniff...I am a girl....blows nose, everyone thinks I am a guy.



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Muttons
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:21 am
#7

Yah, our city is a research city, so there is another 10% bonus as well...totally forgot about that. Yah, all the resources are of high to mid-high for OQ, the maleability might be lower then that. CMs need so many resources, its difficult to find many of good quality that dont completely break your bank. Im still fairly new to CM (0/0/2/3), but have been a medic since i started the game way back at the beginning. Do you have any tips for crafting? What have you found to work best? Oh, and what is this talk about venoms...today is the first I have heard about using vemon in poisens.



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Zarlor
Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:40 am
#8






Lavendryll wrote:

Sniff...I am a girl....blows nose, everyone thinks I am a guy.







Doh! Sorry about that. Bad assumption since the percentage of males to females in these games tends to say that when you are unsure you are safer assuming male. I do apologize (and the name certainly has a more femanine bent to it, even, and I still got it wrong. )


As for the crafting tips, getting back on topic, the FAQ thread stickied at the top of this very forum will lead you to Agents's excellent website for the medical professions with some great tips and everything, especially on the crafting side.




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