Combat Medic Archive

Thread: Food and Chem crafting tool question

Khragon
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:11 am
#1

Can someone exlpain the advantages or disadvantages to the Food and Chem tool's quality. For example I have 2 I use, one has -13 and the other -10. What does this mean?
Agent001
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:40 am
#2

I was told that having a + number would help improve crafting success and experimentation success.....


But if it really does that or not, I dunno.

Makarish
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:45 am
#3

yes the effectiveness does matter when experimenting so having a tool with + is better but the difference is not that noticeable between about +3 and +15(max)


another thing to keep in mind is that food/chem crafting stations also have effectiveness rateing and it also scales up to +15 on them too.




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wynlyndd
Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:50 am
#4






Makarish wrote:

yes the effectiveness does matter when experimenting so having a tool with + is better but the difference is not that noticeable between about +3 and +15(max)


another thing to keep in mind is that food/chem crafting stations also have effectiveness rateing and it also scales up to +15 on them too.






It is hard to tell the effectiveness but your initial assembly will be affected. The first screen will have more amazing or good successes.


Also, like Makarish says crafting stations also have a rating but he is incorrect that they only go to 15. They go up much higher than the tools. Right now the one in my house is a 33.48 and the architect who made it has a 38+ one. I have heard of them as high as 42.




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DanLucky
Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:10 am
#5

I have heard people yelling that they had crafting stations of +43.
Kiera_Zan
Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:20 am
#6




DanLucky wrote:
I have heard people yelling that they had crafting stations of +43.




There are people on Intrepid making +41's that I've read about. I just wish they were portable.


I just bought some new crafting tools, because I finally got wise to the situation. I had 3 tools I had made when I had NA & ENG IV, but they all had negative ratings. Now I have 4 Food/Chems that are +7 and it still doesnt make a difference it seems.


When I make Solid Delivery Shells, I use some 900+ Rice and some pretty good copper. It still gives me between +25 and +28 on the experimentation, so I'm unsure that the new tools helped there.(Is it just the high OQ, Mal, and PE thats giving me a high rating and the tool really doesn't effect it?)




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Khragon
Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:54 am
#7

Yeah I picked up 2 +14.8 ones last night, see how they work. My old ones were -13 and I think -10.
Jacore
Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:12 am
#8

The feedback I've gotten i the pursuit of these tools are that the type of ingredients are important to the station. 450 metal and 50 minerals are required. Further, the bonus on the tool/station as I have been informed is 100% dependent upon the conductivity of the metal used (as minerals do not have conductivity).


Whether right or wrong, the guidance I've been given is that metals wtih conductivity of around 850 would yield at best a +25 table, and that advanced docs/cms should be on the lookout for conductivity metals of 950 and above if you want a high bonus table made.


I have similar questions on what exactly it benefits and not, though wtih my experience I have had much less crit fails using my +22 station than public ones. Hope to have a better station tonight.


Jacore

HoTron-rex
Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:44 am
#9

keep in mind that there are 2 different things we're discussing here. Crafting Tools and Stations. for Tools, the max value is +15% and for stations i'm not sure, but its much higher. Both items increase your chances of amazing success and decrease your chances for crit failures throughout the crafting process. once i was done grinding i upgraded from -14% to +14% and noticed a huge difference in the lack of crit fails I had.... so yes, it is worth it



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Makarish
Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:11 am
#10

keep one thing in mind here, there are 2 types of crafting stations here. one has rateings of up to 15 and that is a 99% effectiveness crafting station and there are other with input hoppers or some other add on that make themscale up to 50but that does not effect the ability to get good assembles/experiaments. dont ask me for any other info on this as it is just what i was told by our guilds archetect who mademy station for me. also from what i hear the other type you are talking about is more expensive.



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prometheusiam
Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:15 pm
#11

The highest rating on a crafting tool is +15, the highest rating on a crafting station is +45.


If you find a tool at +14.94, that's about the best you can get, and any master artisan can make it, if they use the right resources.


For the crafting stations, +42 to +43 is the best. Your experimentation is affected by these ratings.


Also, when looking at your resources that you will craft with, look for overall quality of 800 or above, and for organics, high potential energy, and for inorganics, high mallaebility. These all affect the quality of the produced items.

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