Combat Medic Archive

ok over the last few days ive had a bit of a dilemma chosing what weaponskills, i voted carbine out coz of the ham it takes for specials anyway, and my choice has been between pistols and rifles, just for anyone else having the same troubles, ive written you a list of the pros and cons between these two weaponskills.

i'll start off with rifles... pros will be green, cons, red.

mind attacks; when you incap someone by mind, they cant get revived.

long range; in a large scale battle, you can pick of targets from the back.

the fact that mind cannot be buffed, with mind poisons... u will kill extremely fast

at anything less than about 50m rifles are at -50 damage, most pvp is close range

the HAM costs for rifle special moves are mind; this will make you be able to heal/poison less

with HAM costs high, vs another CM, you will be ineffective if he poisons you

dont even think about being to wear armor, all of the HAM costs form healing and shooting will come from your mind.

with headshot3, although its powerful, to me it takes 126 mind cost, which is suicide.

pistols...

HAM cost; its **edit** low, and it comes from your action, you can do special moves forever.

(im rodian so i can get pimp action)

pistols are VERY fast, less queing time for healing and poisons.

most pvp is close ranged, pistols should be more effective

with pistols i could afford to wear a suit of composite.

pistols have the knockdown special moves.

pistols do less damage

pistols mainly do damage to health, which can be buffed above 3000 (but poisons can lower it fast)

to me it looks like i should chose pistols, make me change my mind :0

Rifle is best right now. Definitely. But I hear they're going to get nerfed.

wel lets say that if you whant to kil PvP fast chooce rifle! im a master CM now, but im going for:

0-4-4-4 swordsman

0-0-4-4 Combat medic

2-0-0-1 Rifleman

then i have 4 mind bleed, mind diseas and mind poison! the only thing i worry about is my mind pool! i not sure what the special cost on the T21 rifle is and whit my template i can use rifleman on the mobs (players) and when they are getting colse I just take my Power hammer whit 180-620 dmg and do a head hit 3

You don't know much about combat medics do you. WE CAN HEAL MIND INCAPS.

A spray stick (still a rifle don't ask me why) has about -10 i think at 0 meters and you can all ways use point blank attack if you useing a laser or t21.

Mind can be buffed ask a master dancer or ent (i think)

I ware armour and it does'nt affect the mind just willpower and focus.

Have no idea where you get 126 mind use for headshot 3 form. But the specials on my laser cost 90.

Can you DB someone with a pistol NO.youCAN witha rifle and sniper shot.

I'm in the process of returning to cm and had the same choice to make myself, I think it all depends on what your style of pvp is... If you like to go on solo raids then I'd say a pistol with a full set of comp would do you better, but in large groups a rifle would definitely be more effective. Then again if a spraystick has good accuracy on the move and at closer ranges at master rifleman that'd probably sway me back to rifles even though I'm halfway through pistoleer now.

ackew you cant heal you OWN mind so what does that have to do with anything?

effecting willpower and focus is just as bad as effecting mind. less willpower more ham cost.

if the specials on your laser cost 90 it must have about 280 damage, or you have 1000 willpower or something

ever thought of /deathblow?

thx

i was recently faced with the same dilemna. I chose rifles, mainly because i pvp in groups, and don't focus on shooting that much. However, when those mind poisons tick, its real useful just to use one head shot 3 and drop a guy. Also, sniper shot can be VERY useful. I never wear armor anymore though, and that can be a problem.

I just figure i can pop a muon and fishak and that will get me through the current battle. If I get mind poisoned myself though, i am totally worthless and just have to run. I am considering getting sniper shot, and the speed tree of rifle, and then getting the poison and disease healing trees in doc.

I had Carbineer it not that bad of ham cost. The SubDH17 has low ham cost. I don't know why not carbineer? So some of the ham cost are high. I think KD without a timer is great.

Nope my laser has a damage of 100-688. and a speed of 6.1 i.ve done about 3.5k with an over power shot.

But can you deathblow at 64m with a pistol NO i can with my rifle and sniper shot. Well it up to you but i ware a low enc adv compchest plate espicaly made for me, and then enc sliced to be even lower.

I find that in group PvP, I am needed most as a Master Combat Medic, not as a weapon specialist. This has lead me to drop my 0444 2 handed and go back to 0044 pistol and 0440 doc. I find that I can use the pistol timer and knockdown to keep myself alive longer, which in turn keeps my group alive longer.

Rifle would be a good choice in a 1 on 1 situation I would suppose, however other than snipershot it is useless in a group if you are doing your intended job. 2handed does more damage than any other yes, but you dont have time to do all of the bleeds before you are incapped, and staying alive is critical in a group. You really need master brawler and master 2handed to be effective 1v1 on a consistent basis.

The decision comes down to what you want to be in a group....mild contributor to group by fighting 1v1....or hugely beneficial to a group by doing what MCM do best. If you have time to monkey around with a weapon, you are simply not doing your job. You need to be stacking area and individual poisons and diseases onyour toughest opponents and healing your toughest allies. This all takes time, cunning, and HAM.

I do recognize that many PvE a lot, and this would obvious come into play with your choice. In this scenario Rifle would become a more viable solution. I still find that in my groups, I am just too busy. Easy mobs go down to quick to worry about a weapon, and difficult mobs keep me busy doing what MCM's do. My PA is very organized though and very effective because we all play to each others strengths. In closing, I would suggest you read the weapon board you are considering and find proof that in order to be effective at a particular weapon you need to consider that other proffesions mate better than CM. For example, pistoleer/smuggler/doc is an uber pistol template. Just my 1.5 cents worth.

This all may change with the upcoming changes to HAM and combat

Kase, MCM

ive come to the conclusion...

teamplayers take pistols

solo or ppl that wanna be more effective in pvp take rifles.

no matter which route you take, rifle is way more effective in pvp, be it strafe shot 2 or mind crunching, rifle purely owns.

ackew with a pistol you wouldnt pvp at 64m, and you wouldnt have to wear encumb sliced armor, you could run around with a full suit of 80% comp and not have to worry about it. u could be at close range, using KD and just /deathblow np

i find with rifles that hardly any pvp is at 60m+. but then again i dont have any poisons to reach that far... YET.

ive heard that master rifleman is 100x better than being anywhere else on the skill tree, so im gonna train to master and give it a chance

I have been a long time master riflemen, and recently have picked up the cm tree. i figure i will keep rifle for a cpl reasons. 1 is that when u looking at ur team mates and letting it do auto fire t21 does more dmg than anything else. 2, mind bleeds/headshot 3 great defense bonuses. Riflemen get more defense stuff than any other elite marksmen tree. 4 1v1 with rifle = ownage 5 random ham aoe attacks work great with my new area health poisons and commandos hehe. disadvatages...i go through fishak/bivolia like a mad wookiee. And yes, headshot3 is very hurtful to ur own mind pool, mine is normally 150 and i have focus/will/mind maxed, d'oh! oh well either way i m ownage in pvp and only 1 below commando in pve.