Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Do poisons stack?
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Niamb
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:50 pm
#1
I have been playing Niamb as an uber healer and have not used CM attacks until a recent guild krayt hunt. I threw poison Cs and disease Cs at the krayt dragon, but would wait till the poison or disease wore off until I threw another. I was then told that poisons (and I assume diseases) stack and throwing more would increase the damage I did. Then someone else said they stack, but only if they are of different levels, such that 3 consecutive poison Cs would not stack, but throwing a poison C, followed by a poison B, followed by a poison A would stack.
So what is the real skinny here? Should I stick with ranged heals since poison/disease isn't effective in PvE, keep throwing my best poison Cs one after another, or make some poison Bs and As cause that is the only way poisons will stack?
With all the buffs out there I am finding my Master Doc/CM really boring to play except on guild trips to very difficult locales. I'm wondering if I should drop CM, since I don't PvP and pick up some other skill, but before doing so I'd like to know if there is a way to make CM a more fun role for PvE.
Harkyn1
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:32 pm
#2
What the last guy said....
If you stay up long enough in PvE you can throw, for example, MindPoison A, B, and C and then Mind Disaes A, B, and C and correct me if Im wrong but it worked for me. You can THEN throw Mind AREA posion A, B, and C and then Mind AREA disease A, B, and C. Great for PvE but WORTHLESS in PvP, so for you troll reading this go away, we CM's cant stay alive long enough to throw that many things at one target.
Tymothi
Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:06 pm
#3
I don't know if this works with poisons but I know for a fact that you can stack 2 of the same disease. I assume that it works for poisons, in fact I think I've done it before but don't remember exactly. And yeah, you can stack them if they're a different letter.
Khragon
Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:23 am
#4
You cant use the same poison on something, but they do stack to different HAM pools. For example, you can use a poison C, Poison B and Poison A on1 HAM bar. Also a Poison C onhealth, action and mind bars stack. Diseases stack the same, and you can disease and poison the same pool. You cannot poison C a mind pool, then poison C a mind pool again.
Domaru
Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:06 pm
#5
Is it possible to increase poison on a target by repeatedly poisoning it?
I know that when I am in the geo caves they keep stacking it on me so is it possible to do this on other players during PvP? And does stacking work during PvE?
a3vwgolf
Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:14 am
#6
ok, You can stack one one target, at most for one stat( ill say mind)
Mind Poison A/Mind Poison B/Mind Poison C/Area Mind Poison C/Mind disease C(cannot stack different lvl area's or diseases)
But dont quote me im still testing...
Mantherean
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:43 pm
#7
You can stack posions both area and singles. Start with C, B, A singles then Area C, B, A. Don't know about Disease. Don't use them much.
Domaru
Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:03 pm
#8
Thanks for Clarifying for me. Now I just have a couple more questions.
1. Regarding PvP and Focus/Willpower Poisons
A. How effective are they?
B. Can you stack these with Standard Mind Poisons?
2. Regarding Spider Venom powered poisons
A. What other components can be used to make powerful poisons?
B. Heard of poisons that do 1kish dmg per tick. How are these made?
Any help would be appreciated.
Mo-Katep
Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:28 am
#9
---Mispost please delete.---
Message Edited by Mo-Katep on 11-09-2004 01:42 AM
Mo-Katep
Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:41 am
#10
>1. Regarding PvP and Focus/Willpower Poisons
>A. How effective are they?
I've not really done much PVP (I tend to get targetted and killed first) but I'm guessing this depends on whether the target has Poison and Disease resist buffs - if they do then I think it pretty much counters us, and we need to have high potency to get through.
If not then we're probably laughing - until the doctors come along and do area cure 
>B. Can you stack these with Standard Mind Poisons?
Firstly there aren't any Focus or Willpower poisons - they are diseases, so yes they will stack, however diseases tick at 40 seconds so it takes a long while.
The only time you're going to be using Diseases is when you've got your enemy cloning and rebuffing and coming back into the fight. But even then the doctor is going to cure them.
I'm guessing diseases aren't really used in PVP.
>2. Regarding Spider Venom powered poisons
>A. What other components can be used to make powerful poisons?
The two special components for Poisons are Spider Venom from the spider in the geo caves (I think its the geo caves?) and Rancor bile.
Spider Venom will increase the effectiveness and potency of the poison.
Rancor Bile increases the number of charges you get.
There is other types of venom but the Spider venom is the best. Also you can loot enhanced or exceptional components.
B. Heard of poisons that do 1kish dmg per tick. How are these made?
I'm not master yet so I haven't created any this good myself yet, but either you need the best quality resources to make the best components to put in with the best quality resources to make this kind of damage poisons. Presumably you would choose to experiment to get your damage / tick higher, but this would be at the cost of range, potency and number of charges.
Mo-Katep
Combat Medic 4-3-4-4 Novice Rifleman
Proud member of the Phoenix Legion
Infinity.
Kadgarth
Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:17 am
#11
In order to get a 1k+ tick, you would need approxamatly 250 (or so, depending on your resources) powerspider venom.
Mo-Katep wrote:
B. Heard of poisons that do 1kish dmg per tick. How are these made?
I'm not master yet so I haven't created any this good myself yet, but either you need the best quality resources to make the best components to put in with the best quality resources to make this kind of damage poisons. Presumably you would choose to experiment to get your damage / tick higher, but this would be at the cost of range, potency and number of charges.
Message Edited by Kadgarth on 11-09-2004 07:17 AM
Domaru
Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:45 am
#12
Kadgarth wrote:
In order to get a 1k+ tick, you would need approxamatly 250 (or so, depending on your resources) powerspider venom.
Mo-Katep wrote:
B. Heard of poisons that do 1kish dmg per tick. How are these made?
I'm not master yet so I haven't created any this good myself yet, but either you need the best quality resources to make the best components to put in with the best quality resources to make this kind of damage poisons. Presumably you would choose to experiment to get your damage / tick higher, but this would be at the cost of range, potency and number of charges.
Message Edited by Kadgarth on 11-09-2004 07:17 AM
What other components or resources are best to use in Mind Poisons in addition to the Spider Venom?
Domaru
Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:47 pm
#13
Mo-Katep wrote:
>1. Regarding PvP and Focus/Willpower Poisons
>A. How effective are they?
I've not really done much PVP (I tend to get targetted and killed first) but I'm guessing this depends on whether the target has Poison and Disease resist buffs - if they do then I think it pretty much counters us, and we need to have high potency to get through.
If not then we're probably laughing - until the doctors come along and do area cure
>B. Can you stack these with Standard Mind Poisons?
Firstly there aren't any Focus or Willpower poisons - they are diseases, so yes they will stack, however diseases tick at 40 seconds so it takes a long while.
The only time you're going to be using Diseases is when you've got your enemy cloning and rebuffing and coming back into the fight. But even then the doctor is going to cure them.
I'm guessing diseases aren't really used in PVP.
>2. Regarding Spider Venom powered poisons
>A. What other components can be used to make powerful poisons?
The two special components for Poisons are Spider Venom from the spider in the geo caves (I think its the geo caves?) and Rancor bile.
Spider Venom will increase the effectiveness and potency of the poison.
Rancor Bile increases the number of charges you get.
There is other types of venom but the Spider venom is the best. Also you can loot enhanced or exceptional components.
B. Heard of poisons that do 1kish dmg per tick. How are these made?
I'm not master yet so I haven't created any this good myself yet, but either you need the best quality resources to make the best components to put in with the best quality resources to make this kind of damage poisons. Presumably you would choose to experiment to get your damage / tick higher, but this would be at the cost of range, potency and number of charges.
Mo-Katep
Combat Medic 4-3-4-4 Novice Rifleman
Proud member of the Phoenix Legion
Infinity.
Missed your message lst time i checked thread. Great answer. Clears alot of things up for me. Thanks for the great info.
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