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Thread: P10 Changes: Feedback

vortexala
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:15 am
#1
If anyone has had a chance to test the changes that are in P10 for us, please respond here with your impressions.



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Quemine
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:36 am
#2
If someone could post the changes, since nothing is on the patch notes.. So I know what to look for.. ^_^



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Pahdbacca
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#3


Using pre-patch poison B resist buffs 204 power:

against 210 pot poison C - 26 resists, 20 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C - 27 resists, 19 successes, 46 total throws



Using post-patch poison B resist buffs196 power:

against 192 pot poison C - 28 resists,18 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C -31 resists,15 successes, 46 total throws



I looks like they MAY have toned down the area cures. 288 power area cure Bs required 3 apps to cure the 131 pot 342 effect poisons. I honestly was not keeping track of the other poisons.


I will let somebody else test the area cures...almost 200 throws is ecough for me right now.

Message Edited by Pahdbacca on 08-31-2004 04:48 PM

Message Edited by Pahdbacca on 08-31-2004 08:23 PM



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MataHairy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:30 pm
#4
Well, the y did indeed cut the range on the area cures. The Cure Disease Area Cs that I maxed at 34m yesterday are 25m today.



I will be testing the effectivenss of the resistpacks next.



Matta
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Rikilii
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:10 pm
#5




Pahdbacca wrote:


Using pre-patch poison B resist buffs 204 power:

against 210 pot poison C - 26 resists, 20 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C - 27 resists, 19 successes, 46 total throws



Using post-patch poison B resist buffs196 power:

against 192 pot poison C - 28 resists, 28 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C -31 resists,15 successes, 46 total throws





These numbers don't add up.


Also, did you test both of these after the patch, because my impression was not that they would change the crafted packs, but that they would change the resistance equation, so it would affect pre- and post-patch buffs equally?


If I recall correctly from testing before the patch, a resist B of around 200 power would resist a 130 potency poison about 4 out of 5 times, and a 205 potency poison about half the time.


This testing seems to indicate that the potency of the poison doesn't really make a big difference anymore (unless you meant 18 resists and 28 successes on the red line above)





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Pahdbacca
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:22 pm
#6




Rikilii wrote:




Pahdbacca wrote:


Using pre-patch poison B resist buffs 204 power:

against 210 pot poison C - 26 resists, 20 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C - 27 resists, 19 successes, 46 total throws



Using post-patch poison B resist buffs196 power:

against 192 pot poison C - 28 resists, 28 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C -31 resists,15 successes, 46 total throws





These numbers don't add up.


Also, did you test both of these after the patch, because my impression was not that they would change the crafted packs, but that they would change the resistance equation, so it would affect pre- and post-patch buffs equally?


If I recall correctly from testing before the patch, a resist B of around 200 power would resist a 130 potency poison about 4 out of 5 times, and a 205 potency poison about half the time.


This testing seems to indicate that the potency of the poison doesn't really make a big difference anymore (unless you meant 18 resists and 28 successes on the red line above)







Sorry, red should be 28 resists, 16 successes. All testing was done post patch



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Pip Tazo = Master Doc / Swordsman - Always the CM at heart
Zhose U'nare = Master Smuggler / Pistoleer - resource hound

Former CM correspondent - Member of Team Black Bar
" If you're dependant on venom to be effective than you're doing something wrong." - Obata
Rikilii
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:42 pm
#7




Pahdbacca wrote:




Rikilii wrote:




Pahdbacca wrote:


Using pre-patch poison B resist buffs 204 power:

against 210 pot poison C - 26 resists, 20 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C - 27 resists, 19 successes, 46 total throws



Using post-patch poison B resist buffs196 power:

against 192 pot poison C - 28 resists, 28 successes, 46 total throws

against 131 pot poison C -31 resists,15 successes, 46 total throws





These numbers don't add up.


Also, did you test both of these after the patch, because my impression was not that they would change the crafted packs, but that they would change the resistance equation, so it would affect pre- and post-patch buffs equally?


If I recall correctly from testing before the patch, a resist B of around 200 power would resist a 130 potency poison about 4 out of 5 times, and a 205 potency poison about half the time.


This testing seems to indicate that the potency of the poison doesn't really make a big difference anymore (unless you meant 18 resists and 28 successes on the red line above)







Sorry, red should be 28 resists, 16 successes. All testing was done post patch




So now it really seems like there's no benefit to experimenting on potency



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TC: Avaro Tribec--Co-founder of the TC-GCW, and Self Proclaimed Leader of the Imperial Legions
Obata
Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:56 am
#8
I did some area cure testing. They seem to have been adjusted as promised. I used a 339 effectiveness poison (678 tick) against 2 different area cures.


Cure 1: Cure Poison Area B, effectiveness: 261


First application: tick reduced to 417

Second application: tick reduced to 156

Third application: cured


Cure 2: Cure Poison Area C, effectiveness: 597


First apllication: tick reduced to 81

Second application: cured


It falls right in line with how we were told they would work. The effectiveness of the cure is subtracted from the damage, until it gets to 0 (cure). When these cures first went in (9.3) I could cure that same poison with one application of the same area cure B I used here. This is definitely better.



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Mustelafuro
Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:52 am
#9
Area cures are better, for us anyway Shorter range and take more to cure.1 question tho, what about havla? I didn't try it since its so bugged, but did they take the havla away from poison cures?


vortexala
Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:57 am
#10




Mustelafuro wrote:

Area cures are better, for us anyway Shorter range and take more to cure.1 question tho, what about havla? I didn't try it since its so bugged, but did they take the havla away from poison cures?



Not sure. I'll check tonight when I get home.




~Texxie Xetrov~
Retired Mayor of Vesania, Corellia, Chilastra
Retired Combat Medic Correspondent(Feb 04 - Dec 04)

"A Day without sunlight is like.... night."
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Mustelafuro
Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:06 am
#11
I'll try it too, not doing much right now anyway, so what if I get bugged Everyone is in the village anyway....hehe
vortexala
Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:29 am
#12




Mustelafuro wrote:

I'll try it too, not doing much right now anyway, so what if I get bugged Everyone is in the village anyway....hehe





Yeah, I'm not doing much on live atm either, so bugging my toon won't be a big deal



~Texxie Xetrov~
Retired Mayor of Vesania, Corellia, Chilastra
Retired Combat Medic Correspondent(Feb 04 - Dec 04)

"A Day without sunlight is like.... night."
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Play at your own risk, but don't blame us...
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