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Thread: Effectiveness with Spider venom ?

slainer
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:42 pm
#1

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there



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alucard82
Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:40 pm
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about 490ish (+/- 15)



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slainer
Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:29 am
#3

Ho well it s much more than every master crafter i have contact told me but it s sound good to me of curse

thanks for info



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alucard82
Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:14 pm
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slainer wrote:

Ho well it s much more than every master crafter i have contact told me but it s sound good to me of curse

thanks for info






Well, with 180's I made 470ish eff.



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RabbitPL
Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:03 pm
#5






slainer wrote:

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there






w/ 244s I made like in the 520 - 530 range...depending on amazing successes of course.



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alucard82
Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:50 pm
#6






RabbitPL wrote:





slainer wrote:

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there






w/ 244s I made like in the 520 - 530 range...depending on amazing successes of course.





I hit 538 with 242's, just great successes across the board



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RabbitPL
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:00 pm
#7






alucard82 wrote:





RabbitPL wrote:





slainer wrote:

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there






w/ 244s I made like in the 520 - 530 range...depending on amazing successes of course.





I hit 538 with 242's, just great successes across the board





How do you do your experimenting, like how many points at a time? I usually do 2 points....sometimes if I'm feeling lucky I'll do more than that. Do you go one point at a time?



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RabbitPL
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:01 pm
#8

lol and what did you start at effectiveness wise b4 experimenting?



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whippet
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:16 am
#9

With my resources on tarquinas I would be looking at a -


499 effectivness 165 potency single poison C or,


404 effectivness 165 potency area poison C. but what i would craft for myself would be a -


322 effectiveness 225 potency Area Poison C. (if i wanted it for pvp)
-East
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:17 am
#10

Simple guide.

Assuming your 12 point cm can make a 350 eff with 60 power Advanced Infection Amplifiers,


90 = 380 <base>

100 = 390

110 = 400

120 = 410

130 = 420

140 = 430

150 = 440

160 = 450

170 = 460

180 = 470

190 = 480

200 = 490

209 = 499

900 = 3800 <legendary>

then you would add the power of the bile used,

209 w 5 70 = 504

209 w 6 70 = 505

209 w 15 70 = 514

This is also supposing you mean single c poison <dosent matter stat> but if ya follow the math involved, the same applys to area c poisons. Also assuming you get no moderate or failed attempts.

Hope I helped, -East




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F-T-W
Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:20 pm
#11






RabbitPL wrote:





alucard82 wrote:





RabbitPL wrote:





slainer wrote:

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there






w/ 244s I made like in the 520 - 530 range...depending on amazing successes of course.





I hit 538 with 242's, just great successes across the board





How do you do your experimenting, like how many points at a time? I usually do 2 points....sometimes if I'm feeling lucky I'll do more than that. Do you go one point at a time?





/bump for an answer



-V


RabbitPL
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:37 pm
#12






F-T-W wrote:





RabbitPL wrote:





alucard82 wrote:





RabbitPL wrote:





slainer wrote:

I got spider venom power 209 what can i expect with poison mind effectiveness with a Master Crafter ( 12 pts and high quality ressource ) ?

I ask cause i can t craft it my self ( non master ...) and i must trust someone so i want to know what would be good


Thanks to let your estimation there






w/ 244s I made like in the 520 - 530 range...depending on amazing successes of course.





I hit 538 with 242's, just great successes across the board





How do you do your experimenting, like how many points at a time? I usually do 2 points....sometimes if I'm feeling lucky I'll do more than that. Do you go one point at a time?





/bump for an answer






no one wants to tell me how they experiment?



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F-T-W
Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:51 pm
#13






alucard82 wrote:

The reason why you do not do more than 2 pts at a time is because there are hidden/unseen decimals that you want to get to round up as often as possible. Im gonna use some arbitrary numbers that have no relation to CM but will show you by what I mean when i say rounding up.



1 experiment with say 10 pts (hypothetically that you can do all 10 at once)

you would get say 12.4 which rounds down to the nearest whole number = 12

12.4 / 5 = 2.48 average


5 experiments with 2 pts each

2.51 + 2.50 + 2.48 + 2.51 + 2.50 = 12.5 which rounds to the neares whole number = 13

Since you did it individually it rounded each one up a little higher to an average of about 2.5, rather than a 2.48.


you have to get each decimal to hit a little higher via two points at a time




the difference between a 12 an a 13 would be relative to say a 343 eff and say a 345 eff







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/bump for other CM crafting nubs to se this - I recently moved into crafting having been combat oriented the entire game, and it's like im so nubbish w/ some stuff I'm almost embarrassed




-V


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