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Thread: Before calling for a self-nerf...

dustdoc
Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:01 pm
#1

Please compare yourself vs competent players. These are the damage #s from a COMPETENT rifleman, a class that's bascially considered gimpy in most respects. Most people PvPing have ZERO idea what they're doing or how to min/max.


10,000 damage AE with a Laser Rifle. Now that the T21 is powered up again, expect much more and more armor piercing.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=8233


"I have hit for 3000 before armor/resist adjustments. The HAM hit is random, but devistating. I'm just now getting into PVP, I'll post more as I get more experience with it.
I can really appreciate why t21's were cut down in damage. With the best slice and resources making it, plus add powerups I could easily do 10k damage to AR0, mobs."

MycroftTHan
Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:23 pm
#2

a Master Carbineer can kill you in 3 sec flat. that is with 75% damage reduction. that's 1vs1


depending on luck with pools hit, it would take 5-10 seconds to kill a whole group.

Indalamar
Fri Aug 22, 2003 3:37 am
#3

I'm a Master Carbineer/ Master Doctor and while I kill Very fast when I'm buffed and spamming Crippling Shot, There is no way I could kill someone in 3 seconds. It's a physical impossibility. My KD does about 70-100 dmg to players and they can stand up and fight immediately and my Crippling Shot does around 150-400 on a knocked down character. So even if I knock you down and you just lay there , there is still no chance to kill someone faster then 15-20 seconds. And need I remind you that that's using the strongest carbine attack at master carbine with an amazing gun And I hit random pools with every attack.
MycroftTHan
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:53 am
#4

crippling shot is not the strongest attack of a carbineer in PvP.


i know that, i am one.


and i have personally witnessed a Master Carbineer incapping someone in 3 shots within 3 seconds and she did not get lucky on pools hit because it did not matter.


if you need another hint: the damage diplayed was the bugged '1'



if you opponent can get up imeditately, why do you use charge shot?


and a Laser Carbine is not an amazing gun.

SWeaTiNGBuLLeTZ
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:57 am
#5

3 shots in 3 seconds? a pistol doesn't even shoot that fast...



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SeductiveAsia11
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:58 am
#6

/agree. No nerf needed.
MycroftTHan
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:59 am
#7






SWeaTiNGBuLLeTZ wrote:
3 shots in 3 seconds? a pistol doesn't even shoot that fast...




you must be playing a different game.
dustdoc
Fri Aug 22, 2003 1:42 pm
#8

"3 shots in 3 seconds? a pistol doesn't even shoot that fast... "


10 second Rifles shoot that fast.


Please review the various threads concerning weapon speed.


Master Rifleman gets +90 rifle speed = 90% delay reduction = 10 sec = 1 second


And please,if you're making balance posts reemember you should be a Master level char with master crafted weapons with all advanced components with a master (30%-40%) slice and +30% powerups. it will not take any of you more than 1 month to reach master level or achieve all of these conditions. Think long term in terms of class balance.


I haven't evenaddressed what you can do with AE weapon attacks and +20 skill enhancers, master level doc buffs, spice, and Tatooine Sunburn.

PeanutButterCoffee
Fri Aug 22, 2003 2:10 pm
#9

I very much agree. CMs spend more combat points than the elite brawler/marksman classes, and even then they need to take master chemist or getDoctor-made schematics to maximize effectiveness.Don't forgetthe harvesting, and careful crafting of each offensive component.


I still get my ass whooped against combat classes who spend the same amount of skill points as I do, in open combat. It's not always as easy as some CMs make it seem,to keep out of LoS but within 40m. I generally prefer PvPing in a group now, because it makes me more effective than if I were alone, and it makesthe whole groupmore effective just having me. And I think that's the CM's niche.




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