Combat Medic Archive
Thread: On Nerfs and Nerf Crys
vortexala wrote:
Because only the Mods can delete/lock threads, else I would do just that.
EronSacera wrote:
Why can't you just delete nerfing threads here when they arise? The good majority of them aren't constructive and fill our forum with needless clutter.
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And this is why correspondants cannot delete them so the Mods can see what is being discussed. Before its brushed away under the carpet.
Texxie: Since the FAQ seems like it would be just a waste of time really, you could just add the link to the GCW forum into your first post here instead. Probably won't make much of a difference, but MAYBE we can encourage those folks who want to complain about CMs to at least take it to the proper forum instead of disrupting our forum. (I know, it probably won't work, but if we could even get just one of the nerf-criers to go someplace else I think we may have achieved something.)
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board?board.id=GCW
Can't wait till publish 7, then you all shout Nerf Carbiner, because he kd's and dizzyed a group of 40 guys LOL, stop whinning, start playing.
CM is powerfull but not overpowerd for the points it recuired, and is only good in a few situation, 1 of that is in group fight, and the fact that they can cause mind damage (which isnt healable that good now) well to let you know that the devs are working on a better way for the mind pool, so that its easier to heal.
Well an easy way to counter a cm in a group fight,Divide your team.
Sinse the day i play this game i haven't seen 1 good attack, like flank and rear attacks, all grouped and standing close to eachother, and in front of the opponent, maybe thats why you all think that cm is overpowerd becasue its a crowd controller.
and some more issues: Would you guys still cry if we did Healt or action damage?? guess not because a flamethrower or fire knockdown does more damage then we do.
conclusion cm is powerfull because it can attack a groups mind pool, so we'll see if you still cry if the fixed the mind issue, because now the msot powerfull profs are rifleman and cm, all because of the mind pool.
Cya skuzz.
vortexala wrote:
Hey Folks,
Just wanted to say that I too am rather tired of the nerf cries here in our forum, so I simply ask that you ignore them. This forum was, and is, meant to be a place for CMs to interact and discuss issues with each other, trade ideas, trade templates, boast about their newest crafting related success, complain about the lack of resources, etc.
What it's become is nothing more then a free-for-all of nerf cries.
I, myself, have succumbed to the lure of these threads. But no more.
I ask that you simply ignore those who came here to troll and cry nerf(and we all know who they are). Take the battle to the GCWForum, I'll gladly jump in there.
But not here.
This is our little slice of the forums, let's try and keep it clean by ignoring the nerf criers. Eventually they'll get tired or banned, either way...well, at least we'll be rid of them
Note: This is only meant towards those who simply come here to troll and cry for nerfs. Discussions are more then welcome, and wanted actually, but anyone who simply cries 'nerf' for no reason other then to troll is who this post is targeted toward.
Message Edited by vortexala on 02-20-2004 04:09 PM
Forthe record: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=11
This is why the troll here and cry nerf (me being one of them)Blame SOE not the nerf herders.
Message Edited by Jedi-scout on 03-09-2004 09:06 AM
/break CM's ignore nerf request
Combat medics would not be nearly aseffective in PvPif the game were filled with doctors who had a clue and who knew what they were doing instead of people who got master doc by doing nothing but healing tumble monkeys and don't do anything but buff themselves.
/curepoison;
/curedisease;
How hard can that possiblybe?
PvP is about the GCW. The GCW is about a war and wars are not fought solo. Get a few docs in your group who have a clue and put more than 5 minutes into their crafting and who actually know more about being a doctor than just typing "/healenhance self"
There, CM's have just been "nurfed"
I don't PvP but I do put a lot of time into my meds and as a result I've NEVER had to apply a cure poision or cure disease more than once on myself or others.
/apply CM's ignore nerf request
Sorry Zarlor. But I am a CM complaining about my profession and how it interacts with the game. perfect example: Is a duel considered GCW too? I don't get the pass the buck aspect of the profession forums. And I am getting pretty sick of the fact that I pay a monthly and can't voice my opinion where I feel it matters most. The only people thatshould post here, last time I checked, are actual game subscribers. So regardless if you feel they do or do not have valuable input shouldn't truly matter should it? You have theright to ingore, you have the right to disagree, and so do I.
But....
There are forum moderators with there fingers ready to click delete at serious trolling or off topic threads that do nothing for no one. I do like the fact that someone outside Dev world cared enough to try to set some sort of guidlines. But I got the same rights as the one who posts them.
Obviously you have the right. I'm certainly not saying you (and others) don't have the right. I'm just saying that I think more consideration needs to be given, here. IfI didn;'t think you had the right I wouldn't have bothered to repond at all, I just would have reported the post to the Mods.
Many folks post here without educating themselves on what the real issues are and what happens is that such posts end up just adding further disruption to this forum and being unproductive for everyone involved. THAT is my point. And that is why I feel pretty strongly that the GCW forum is a more proper forum for airing these concerns. I'm not going to go through the list of all the issues and how they have been recognized or are being addressed, let alone WHEN they will be addressed, because coding only happens as fast as it happens and we certainly have no control over that. That listing is easily available on this very forum, however, for any who have bothered to try and keep abreast of what is going on here. Unfortunately new threads are stated daily asking for nerfs to CMs, particularly to nerf CM damage, and frankly it just gets old. Folks try to ignore them, but they are constantly shoved into our faces here. And these same folks wonder why they get such a negative reception?
I can't say that any of my responses are directly pointing at you, Jedi-scout. There have been SOOO many constant arguments here over the same old things that the names of the posters are little more than a blur anymore.
So feel free to post here about the issue all you like, but that's not going to stop others of us from being frustrated with the constant hammering over the same old issues or just wishing we could get this forum back to some semblance of useful normalcy and trying to appeal to folks to take it to the GCW forum to accomplish that. It's a GCW issue and it really, really, really belongs there. That's why I, and others, just keep begging folks to take the issue there. Jest3r IS on top of that issue and since that is the forum he has pruview over you are far more likely to get something accomplished and get your voice heard over there. And isn't that what folks really want? To know they've been heard? Well there you have it, the GCW forum is where you are getting heard on this issue.
I TOLD them they should have made our spherical space station out of the same magnetically shielded walls as the garbage compactor! -Sleksheea 
then you still retain the power in pve, and you get equal treatment in pvp, and no complaints. 1/4 damage would be useless, particularly with the new foods
acklaycomponent poisonsare not carried in bulk, or even by every combat medic
as was stated before, getting the 75% decrease would be fine if they increased the base power of the poisons by 100% first which would reduce pvp power by a bit but actually make pve feasible
mind healing is high on the minds of the devs as well as ae cures which i would not object to either (although that should be the realm of combat medic, not doctor....or give cm ranged cures and not doctor which would have regular limit to range but area effect).
overpowered? yes but not for the reasons most people think, and the fix is not as easy as most people think.....a butterfly flaps its wings in china......
pure poison power nerf would be stupid and the devs DO see this which is why they say medical dot damage is as intended
the fixes they have planned for the entire combat system revamp must be taken into mind...theres no point in nerfing poison, then finding out after the major combat revamp that they are underpowered is there?
just two cents from a 6 month combat medic