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jfang

Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:22 pm

vortexala wrote:

This will make Mastering have some meaning(with good resources, hitting 64m should be possible) and also makes 'dabbling' cost more. As things stand on TC now, a person can take up 0.0.0.4 CM and be able to use good poison/diseases at the cost of a mere 7 meters range that they'dget at 4.0.0.4.

Except for the 75 combat medic effectiveness.

Is anybody else interested in splitting CM effectiveness between the x000 and the 0x00 trees, to make the CM speed line more attractive? As it stands now, because speed doesn't affect poisons or diseases (and even if it did), the x000 tree is *much* better than the 0x00 tree. I would propose taking the CM effectiveness progression as it stands, halving it, and mirroring the halved value in the speed line.

This would have the effect of making combat medics less dabble friendly. Now, the question is if this is what the devs want to do...

Edit: Questions end with question marks, don't they? Oops...

Message Edited by jfang on 07-10-2004 09:23 PM

vortexala

Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:36 pm

#54

jfang wrote:

vortexala wrote:

This will make Mastering have some meaning(with good resources, hitting 64m should be possible) and also makes 'dabbling' cost more. As things stand on TC now, a person can take up 0.0.0.4 CM and be able to use good poison/diseases at the cost of a mere 7 meters range that they'dget at 4.0.0.4.

Except for the 75 combat medic effectiveness.

True, but with a decent spider venom poison they'd still get the desired effect. The initial 'oh no, a CM!' fear and of course the actualmind damage. Plus they'd have the extra skillpointsto put into some otherfotm profession(no idea what's the 'hot' one now).

Is anybody else interested in splitting CM effectiveness between the x000 and the 0x00 trees, to make the CM speed line more attractive? As it stands now, because speed doesn't affect poisons or diseases (and even if it did), the x000 tree is *much* better than the 0x00 tree. I would propose taking the CM effectiveness progression as it stands, halving it, and mirroring the halved value in the speed line.

This would have the effect of making combat medics less dabble friendly. Now, the question is if this is what the devs want to do...

That's a decent idea, really. Maybe you should start a seperate discussion thread on that

Edit: Questions end with question marks, don't they? Oops...

I think so?

Message Edited by jfang on 07-10-2004 09:23 PM

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Bamboozle

Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:15 am

#55

Texxie, would it be possible to ask the devs to rethink the range formula? A non-linear formula where 40-48 range poisons give 60-64m range when used by a master seems a bit more fair to me. It should be possible to reach 64m range without spider venom, imho.

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jfang

Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:35 am

#56

I just realized that by the current range formula, rancor biles just ot a large bump in power. Rather than add 50 charges at the cost of 20m effective range, it adds 50 charges at the cost of 10m effective range.

Just something to point out as an unforseen side effect of the change.

Shiva420

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:35 am

#57

max range for a mcm SHOULD be no more then 35m, and dont give me that " well realistically i can throw farther then that" speech, for then ill have to give you the "well i can shoot farther then 64m with a rifle" speech

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pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
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MataHairy

Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:41 pm

#58

I would like to see:

1) An effective range of 64m for MCM using a 46 range poison or disease.

2) More differentiation in distance for MCMs and non-masters.

3) Throw us a bone and increase the range of our stims to match our poison and diseases. This will likely require a change in the formulas for ranged and area stims.

Matta

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One of the first Master Combat Medics, and the very last Medic Correspondent

jfang

Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:31 am

#59

MataHairy wrote:

I would like to see:

3) Throw us a bone and increase the range of our stims to match our poison and diseases. This will likely require a change in the formulas for ranged and area stims.

Actually, the formula forarea stims does not appear to have changed, so it will naturally become closer to poisons and stims for a master CM. Furthermore, experimenting an area stim for range has more effect than experimenting a poison for range. So whilearea stimsdo not have the same range as poisons do, there are mitigating circumstances.

Brainplay

Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:19 am

#60

MataHairy wrote:

I would like to see:

1) An effective range of 64m for MCM using a 46 range poison or disease.

2) More differentiation in distance for MCMs and non-masters.

3) Throw us a bone and increase the range of our stims to match our poison and diseases. This will likely require a change in the formulas for ranged and area stims.

Would rather like to see an MCM using a 32 range pack hit the 64m cap and a 40+ range pack hit the same cap. Capping the range would have made more sense than changing our modifiers. Not everyone has the stuff to make 46 range poisons. Now if it would just spawn on my server. Dont make me sacrifice more puppies

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Zurck

Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:44 am

#61

Wow I go out of town for a couple weeks and all hell breaks loose!

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jkray8472

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:05 am

#62

Brainplay wrote:

MataHairy wrote:

I would like to see:

1) An effective range of 64m for MCM using a 46 range poison or disease.

2) More differentiation in distance for MCMs and non-masters.

3) Throw us a bone and increase the range of our stims to match our poison and diseases. This will likely require a change in the formulas for ranged and area stims.

Would rather like to see an MCM using a 32 range pack hit the 64m cap and a 40+ range pack hit the same cap. Capping the range would have made more sense than changing our modifiers. Not everyone has the stuff to make 46 range poisons. Now if it would just spawn on my server. Dont make me sacrifice more puppies

Well...I see your point, but I disagree. I think that in order to throw the maximum distance...you should max out the range of the pack. 48m is the maximum range for a poison or disease...so a 1.333 modifier at master would toss that 64m. If 32m was the max range...then I would never have to put a single point into charges/range. My poisons/diseases have a base range of like 40-41...and that's with a balanced Adv DM...not even fully experimented into range!

There needs to be an advantage to those CMs who have been around and collecting resources a long time. An advantage to 12-pointers (who right now have a significant advantage over 10-pointers). All these things have been relatively balanced...although now the range will become much more significant.

Once I get home today, I'll toss out one of my 48m poisons and see how far it'll go. And make my crafting adjustments from there.

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