Combat Medic Archive

Thread: Combat medics are a myth.

TsunamiKata
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:34 am
#27

Let me bring a different prespective to this argument.


Combat Medic has the potentialthat noother class will ever be able to achieve.


Here are my explaination why I made that statement:


1. Combat Medicsareas effecitve astheir poison/disease packs are, but with the potential to be unbeatable given the right resources and conditions. Given the quality of resources that has been spawning around server,you will inevitablely gather all the top quality materials for your component. It is conceivable to be able to make your poison/disease pack with range and damage far beyond your existing Poison/Disease packs.


For example, curretly on Tempest server, they have a spawn of OQ 1000 class 2 liquid petro. By combining that with the Yavanian Fiberplast at OQ 850, I believe they were able to create high quality Advanced Dispersal Mechanism, and they were able to achieve a base range of 66 for their poison packs, which effectively given the player a target acquisition radius of 132 meters. That's nearly twice the maximum distance of any weapon in the game. You're literately standing outside of 128 meter radar screen and picking off people from that distance, they'll be mind incapped long before reaching weapon distance.


I don't see how we're ineffective in PvP in that regard, and if you can do that in PvP, you certainly can do that in PvE.


2. With the existing bugs that's related crafting, we're not reaching our full potential. Bugs such as: Advanced Resilience does not load, Advanced Infection Amplifier has PE stat to determine power rating of the component, but either Eleton Gas nor Titanium Aluminum has that particular stat, thus limiting the final power stat greatly. Also, we're currently only receiving 90% total effectiveness bonus, as oppose to 100% effective bonus, thus reducing our overall damage on poison/disease pack by 10%.


But once those bugs are fixed or addressed, we will be able to create even more powerful and effective poison/disease packs. It's quite possible tocreate poison packs that will reach to the upwards of 800-900 damage per tick. I've already able to construct poison pack with base damage of over 291, and that's with basic component and have a potency of 92.


If all the advanced component are fixed, we will have no need to experiement in Potency, because the Adv. Resilience pack will have at least a base potency of over 110-120 (depend on the quality of the resource), and withhigh duration, combine that with revamped Advanced Infection Amplifier, you'll be able to DoT for 700 and your DoT can last for 15-20 minutes or longer. And if you can throw that from 132 meters away, what is going to stop you?


3. Disease at the current form is ineffective at best, that will be addressed by the developersandit will be more useful in both PvP and PvE. That area is just another untapped potential weapon for Combat Medic to explore. I don't know what will be done, but whatever may be, it will definitely be better than exisiting.



So, with all that said. I'm anxiously awaiting for quality materials to spawn for us. That is first and foremost on mymind and it should be on every other Combat Medics' mind. We are only as good and effective as our poisons are, therefore, pray for the best resourcespawn possible, and once it does. Watch out, becuase something wicked this way comes, Combat Medic at large.






TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
KarlaceEQ
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:34 am
#28

Sas and 440 a tick every 8 seconds is what? 55 dps. I assuem your using a poision C at master cm with maybe 1 non or 1 advanced component. At novice marksmen 3 boxes into pistol a player can do 250 or more a tick with healthshot1. thats a dps of about 31-32. So you are content with a novice starting profession only doing 20 or so less dps than you at a master of an elite profession?





Karlace
I am the god of all you know and love
Sexiest Wook on all of Bria
"When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death, and hades followed him."
SpinalInjury
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:37 am
#29

lol, there is one line that says

"Thanks to all our Mos Enott supporters, and death to you faggots that think you have something on this side of the force."

That translates into you saying all we talk about is faggots? LOL....your an idiot.
Keep care bearing it up, and worring about PVE in your little happy land over there. I've maxed my character, and could give 2 shizts about PVE anymore. If you can't PVP as a combat medic...then your just a complete moron. Hell, I take that back...your just a moron period.


I try to be nice, I try to contribute, and some asshat like this guy always want to turn it into a flame war. You can try to flame me son, you'll never be able to be like me....face it. You can hurl your insults, and cling to what you think is your asuberic wit...in the end, you have nothing. I've stated that your a non-factor, this continues to hold true. More to the point, your character is a waste of disk space on SoE servers. Your probably a novice combat medic, still killing krettles and gorgs. Whatever floats your boat, just don't come at me like you know what your talking about, when you've probably played this class all of 1-2 weeks. You jumped on the Combat Medic bandwagon, probably after being dropped several times in PVP by one, then were disappointed when it took skill to play this class, and not some stupid special move you could just spam over and over.

omgwtfpwnedkkthxbye



Kijan Darkblade
The Regulators -TR
Master Combat Medic
www.bloodfinpvp.com

The Regulators build empires...
Fight builds clubs
TsunamiKata
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:40 am
#30






Sasayaki wrote:

CM > Everyone in PVP, and we do well in PVE. If you do not think so, head to anchorhead on Bloodfin and ask them if they know Kagara Lotus...



Who?? You must be new Kagara.



TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
TsunamiKata
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:50 am
#31






KarlaceEQ wrote:
Well I just went to your TR website and all you speak of is "faggots" and other nonsense, so im glad i was dealing with a immature child.





Oreo,


I have to defend Kijan on that particular area. I've dealth with him on Bloodfin forum board quite often, we don't see eye to eye, but Kajin does not present himself in an immature or childish manner in anyway.


He disagrees on many topics that I've posted, but he would present his case in a constructive manner, disagree withou being disagreeable.


If you draw a conclusion on someone because he's associated with a Player Associate and what they write on the website, thenit's a stereotypical conclusion.


So, don't take it as an insult or such, but I'm just presenting some character witness on someone I've dealt with in the past.



Tsu




TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
SpinalInjury
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:56 am
#32

Thanks Tsu,

He's right, he and I don't get along. Hell, most of the time we are at each others throats. But neither of us take it to hurling insults, or saying things like "Oh yea, well my dad can kick your dad's ass".

I'll be the first to tell you all....I'm an ass. I don't care much for other people outside my PA, and am not the most friendly person you'll ever meet in PVP. This isn't because I don't like people, its not because I'm not a nice guy, or I'm antisocial. I just have a very low patience threshhold for ignorance. I end up comming off short with people, and like I'm a narrow minded ass. Truth be told, I enjoy helping people, and the SWG community....however....other people always let ignorance rear its ugly head which in turn makes me turn back into the "ass" persona of Kijan.

I also have very little tolerance for people that get greedy with their class...and want things handed to them. It just shows their ignorance, and annoys the piss out of me. If you have reasonable sugestions for the CM class, post them. When someone such as myself posts their opinion, don't try to argue it...accept it and move on. Not everyone will agree with you or your opinions. Thus is the nature of life. Everyone has opinions on what should be done to the Combat Medic class. No one is right or wrong, they are opinions. You will never sway someone to your point of view, people as a general rule are pretty set in their ways. The only thing you can do is post your opinions, and let other people add theirs. If you want people to be mindless sheep, and just go along with your opinions, your in the wrong forum.



Kijan Darkblade
The Regulators -TR
Master Combat Medic
www.bloodfinpvp.com

The Regulators build empires...
Fight builds clubs
KarlaceEQ
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:15 am
#33

I never once said i could not pvp. Is combat medic a pvp only profession?


Next resoruces vary from server to server or Bria has never once seen a class 2 liquid petrochem with 1000 oq, and chances of that are extremely slim. to assume that eventually every resources will cycle around to 1k oq is crazy.



actually ive been a combat medic since beta, and actually you started the insults first. so come up with some reasoning,




Karlace
I am the god of all you know and love
Sexiest Wook on all of Bria
"When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death, and hades followed him."
KarlaceEQ
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:19 am
#34

He's right, he and I don't get along. Hell, most of the time we are at each others throats. But neither of us take it to hurling insults, or saying things like "Oh yea, well my dad can kick your dad's ass".


you want me to quote where u used insults first?



Kajin i'm truely sorry we dont see eye to eye but, the devs included CM with the list of combat classes, in the combat proprosal update. They said Cm was combat class, im just going along with it. if you do not see eye to eye with devs maybe its time for you to quit




Karlace
I am the god of all you know and love
Sexiest Wook on all of Bria
"When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death, and hades followed him."
KarlaceEQ
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:20 am
#35

He's right, he and I don't get along. Hell, most of the time we are at each others throats. But neither of us take it to hurling insults, or saying things like "Oh yea, well my dad can kick your dad's ass".


you want me to quote where u used insults first?



Kajin i'm truely sorry we dont see eye to eye but, the devs included CM with the list of combat classes, in the combat proprosal update. They said Cm was combat class, im just going along with it. if you do not see eye to eye with devs maybe its time for you to quit





Karlace
I am the god of all you know and love
Sexiest Wook on all of Bria
"When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death, and hades followed him."
KarlaceEQ
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:21 am
#36

Spinal you think this makes you mature?



omgwtfpwnedkkthxbye



sop far you have shown that you belong in that PA




Karlace
I am the god of all you know and love
Sexiest Wook on all of Bria
"When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death, and hades followed him."
SpinalInjury
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:31 am
#37

You don't know anything about my PA. My PA's average member age is somewhere around 25. We are old school PVP gamers. We don't care about carebears, we don't care about smack talkin flurbs, all we are here for is the PVP. We are good at what we do, and have fun doing it. The fact that we refer to people as "faggots" or what have you does not denote maturity level.

We are all smack talkers, and PVPers....well, for the most part. We have some very nice people that don't fit that stereo type in our PA....for the most part, thats what TR is made up of. Most of our members already got fed up with SWG and are biding their time until some new content comes out, balance, etc.

You think you know me because you read 3 sentences about our PA on our website? That is to laugh.



Kijan Darkblade
The Regulators -TR
Master Combat Medic
www.bloodfinpvp.com

The Regulators build empires...
Fight builds clubs
TsunamiKata
Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:33 am
#38






KarlaceEQ wrote:

Next resoruces vary from server to server or Bria has never once seen a class 2 liquid petrochem with 1000 oq, and chances of that are extremely slim. to assume that eventually every resources will cycle around to 1k oq is crazy.




It maybe crazy, but it's not impossible. Regardless, it will spawn and it may not spawn to OQ 1000, but it'll spawn. And when you get the chance to get it, hoard it. Yavanian Fiberplast is constantly available, it's currenlty spawning at OQ 952 on Bloodfin, I'm hoarding it right now in preparation for better Class 2. Even witht he crappy OQ 202 Class 2 we currently have, I'm still able to create Single and Area poison with base range of 32, that's withou putting any experiement points into it. So with 64 Meter range, you can do a lot with that.


Oh, also. I've ran into instances where during experiementation stage, you'll able to achieve exceptional result, thus increasing your final schematic/product drastically. It happens once in a blue moon, don't know the exact %, but I believe it's less than 4-5%. I know someone who has a schematic of 22/17/10 on their Advanced Dispersal Mechanism compared to my best 15/12/11, and he used the same materials as I did.


You can argue against opinion, but you can't argue against number. I like to present my argument with concrete and factual statistics whenever possible, this will show not only I have done my home work, but also I'm knowledgeable in my area.



Tsu




TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
Jacore
Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:07 am
#39

Tsu, i wasn't able to run something last night with the class2. i had bad fungus. I got some better, but not stellar and will post stats on ingredients and subs with the intention of craeting an ICBM single mind poison tonight.


My apologies for the partial thread hijack, but with no personal attacks intended, this thread could use it or a visit from Xahn anyway.


Jacore

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