Combat Medic Archive
Thread: making 1000 effect poisons
Morganite
Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:04 am
#14
The pvp system that forces people to be pigeonholed into 4-6 professions to be usefullis what ruins pvp, nothing else.
Kirkmeister
Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:45 am
#15
235 is the highest I've had so far. This gave me a 900+ tick with crappy resources and components, so 1000 tick is more than possible. Whilst on subject I saw a 650 base effectivness, 1300 tick!!!!spider venom mind poison for sale in Shai's vendor on Chimaera server. Now that's what I call a poison. She may be on the wrong side, but, boy can she make poisons 
/deepbow Much respect for the crafting of something so powerfull.
Ternque01
Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:06 am
#16
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Misha-linaNykus wrote:
ok time to drool ...
a buddy hooked me up with some 356 power spider venom.. = area mind poison that ticks for 1060, area mind disease that ticks for 847
*smile* join the empire.. simply because you really dont wanna feel my wrath
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This is precisely why I believe CM's need to be rebalanced for PvP play. That is simply insane. See my recent post on your forum for
my reasoning if you want more than a "that is insane OMGOMGOMG!!1111!! LOLOLOL" view and what I'm trying to say.
Misha-linaNykus wrote:
ok time to drool ...
a buddy hooked me up with some 356 power spider venom.. = area mind poison that ticks for 1060, area mind disease that ticks for 847
*smile* join the empire.. simply because you really dont wanna feel my wrath
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This is precisely why I believe CM's need to be rebalanced for PvP play. That is simply insane. See my recent post on your forum for
my reasoning if you want more than a "that is insane OMGOMGOMG!!1111!! LOLOLOL" view and what I'm trying to say.
Mo-Ti
Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:42 am
#17
Ternque01 wrote:
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Misha-linaNykus wrote:
ok time to drool ...
a buddy hooked me up with some 356 power spider venom.. = area mind poison that ticks for 1060, area mind disease that ticks for 847
*smile* join the empire.. simply because you really dont wanna feel my wrath
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This is precisely why I believe CM's need to be rebalanced for PvP play. That is simply insane. See my recent post on your forum for
my reasoning if you want more than a "that is insane OMGOMGOMG!!1111!! LOLOLOL" view and what I'm trying to say.
Using a rare looted component they should be that powerful.
Someone with an (Exceptional) Weapon is just as good. How bout a mind fire nightsister lance? No one cries nerf the pikeman...
Ternque01
Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:51 am
#18
I own a 2.4 million credit geonosian pistol. The only people i can take down are people who aren't capable of healing their health pool.
Well, my 223 damage vibroknuckler likes to pound on people. Now honestly here. I don't think you are dare suggesting that I can drop a whole army in 2 minutes do you? Nahhhh! Of course you're not.
I am a vibrant supporter of "balancing" all poisons/diseases, be they CM delivered or DoT delivered. Don't put words into my mouth or take them away.
To go into your pikeman idea a little Mo-Ti... don't YOU think it's a little out of place when a combatant can't do 1/15th the damage their DoT can do in a fight? I bet you do. Retort if you wish.
Well, my 223 damage vibroknuckler likes to pound on people. Now honestly here. I don't think you are dare suggesting that I can drop a whole army in 2 minutes do you? Nahhhh! Of course you're not.
I am a vibrant supporter of "balancing" all poisons/diseases, be they CM delivered or DoT delivered. Don't put words into my mouth or take them away.
To go into your pikeman idea a little Mo-Ti... don't YOU think it's a little out of place when a combatant can't do 1/15th the damage their DoT can do in a fight? I bet you do. Retort if you wish.
Ternque01
Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:12 am
#19
Actually I'll just cut right to the cheese here Mo-Ti, from a particular perspective, it appears your support for the unbalanced damage that CM's are capable of in PvP is being justified on the existance of another form of an unbalanced game mechanics itself - DoT weaponry.
From a larger standpoint than one that supports CM's as they now exist to one that views the game as a whole, inbalances need to be balanced.
CM's and DoT weaponry unbalance combat.
I have read your thread on tactics to counter CM's. I use every single one (I did like that idea that says to avoid line-of-sight with a CM) of those tactics. Dancer and musician buffs, brandy, canape, and a TK powerboost, do very little to stop 500+ tick poisons and diseases. Having a few docs with my group does little to stop a constant spamming and stacking CM. Little stops stacked poisons/diseases you know this, I know this, everyone who has their gameplay spoiled by it knows this.
The CM profession in unbalanced. On this front page of your forum, I see a "1000 effect poisons" and a "Poison Stacking 101 Class" thread. You tell me how a group of PvP'ers fares against stacked poisons, diseases, and DoT's. Really, I'm curious. Ask yourself is that fair? Does that make the game fun?
Start fessing up here folks. Take some responsibility for your game and lobby for a 75% PvP reduction for you profession. Every combat class gets this reduction except yourselves and those rich enough to afford "CM equivalent DoT Weaponry". Lobby for it. Everyone will be happier, and perhaps CM's will truly be a part of a group - seems now unfortunately that CM's ARE the sole offensive force in modern PvP armies - the rest of the group is in practice a "mop up squad".
This is the truth, and I'm gonna spread it. CM needs to be balanced for PvP! It is ruining PvP.
Mo-Ti, from a particular perspective, it appears your support for the unbalanced damage that CM's are capable of in PvP is being justified on the existance of another form of an unbalanced game mechanics itself - DoT weaponry.From a larger standpoint than one that supports CM's as they now exist to one that views the game as a whole, inbalances need to be balanced.
CM's and DoT weaponry unbalance combat.
I have read your thread on tactics to counter CM's. I use every single one (I did like that idea that says to avoid line-of-sight with a CM) of those tactics. Dancer and musician buffs, brandy, canape, and a TK powerboost, do very little to stop 500+ tick poisons and diseases. Having a few docs with my group does little to stop a constant spamming and stacking CM. Little stops stacked poisons/diseases you know this, I know this, everyone who has their gameplay spoiled by it knows this.
The CM profession in unbalanced. On this front page of your forum, I see a "1000 effect poisons" and a "Poison Stacking 101 Class" thread. You tell me how a group of PvP'ers fares against stacked poisons, diseases, and DoT's. Really, I'm curious. Ask yourself is that fair? Does that make the game fun?
Start fessing up here folks. Take some responsibility for your game and lobby for a 75% PvP reduction for you profession. Every combat class gets this reduction except yourselves and those rich enough to afford "CM equivalent DoT Weaponry". Lobby for it. Everyone will be happier, and perhaps CM's will truly be a part of a group - seems now unfortunately that CM's ARE the sole offensive force in modern PvP armies - the rest of the group is in practice a "mop up squad".
This is the truth, and I'm gonna spread it. CM needs to be balanced for PvP! It is ruining PvP.
Gnuut
Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:35 pm
#21
ndjrod1 wrote:
Whats the highest spider venom ?
This is the highest I have ever seen. Many times players have stated that they have seen higher but I have yet to see an actual Screenshot that proves it.
LDMcFear
Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:58 am
#22
Gnuut wrote:
ndjrod1 wrote:Whats the highest spider venom ?
This is the highest I have ever seen. Many times players have stated that they have seen higher but I have yet to see an actual Screenshot that proves it.
Nice
Gobson
Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:02 am
#23
Gnuut wrote:
ndjrod1 wrote:Whats the highest spider venom ?
This is the highest I have ever seen. Many times players have stated that they have seen higher but I have yet to see an actual Screenshot that proves it.
I know some people on starsider got some exceptional stuff that was like 800 some power and made a disease that ticks for 20,000 or something like that with 100 bf. Chuck it on a krayt, hope on speeder, ride for 5 minutes and you have one dead krayt
DurendalofTempest
Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:27 am
#24
Misha-linaNykus wrote:
ok time to drool ...
a buddy hooked me up with some 356 power spider venom.. = area mind poison that ticks for 1060, area mind disease that ticks for 847
*smile* join the empire.. simply because you really dont wanna feel my wrath
Never!!
*head explodes*
Rooster1
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:07 pm
#25
Cm sucks in Pve there a huge damage reduction and uh nerf cm? nerf KD dizzy too then.
Anti-Thug
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:59 am
#26
197 venoms and good resources will get 500 effective....my regular individuals tick for atleast 610........If I could just get some uber spawns i could get higher
jfang wrote:
The only real way to get 1000 effect poisons is to use spider venom. If you are using decent spider venom, it shouldn't be hard to get 500 effectiveness. I believe that around 200 strength spider venom should be strong enough, although I haven't doneenough testing with spider venom to say that with any confidence.