Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Stacking Poisons
therosIronfeld wrote:
ok, I have heard 2 sides to this and was wanting clarification, I have been told that you can stack;
like mind poison a with b and then c.
heard about the same amount from both sides
can you stack this or no?
This is all in the FAQ. But, since I'm here: you can stack up to 6 poisons on each pool, one of each type (single A, area A, single B, area B, etc.) Diseases do not stack. Only the highest effectiveness disease stays in effect.
Ummm, last time i checked I was stacking Diseases,& that was last night
Obata wrote:
therosIronfeld wrote:
ok, I have heard 2 sides to this and was wanting clarification, I have been told that you can stack;
like mind poison a with b and then c.
heard about the same amount from both sides
can you stack this or no?
This is all in the FAQ. But, since I'm here: you can stack up to 6 poisons on each pool, one of each type (single A, area A, single B, area B, etc.) Diseases do not stack. Only the highest effectiveness disease stays in effect.
ogwane wrote:
Ummm, last time i checked I was stacking Diseases,& that was last night
Obata wrote:
therosIronfeld wrote:
ok, I have heard 2 sides to this and was wanting clarification, I have been told that you can stack;
like mind poison a with b and then c.
heard about the same amount from both sides
can you stack this or no?
This is all in the FAQ. But, since I'm here: you can stack up to 6 poisons on each pool, one of each type (single A, area A, single B, area B, etc.) Diseases do not stack. Only the highest effectiveness disease stays in effect.
Numbers.......I want to see numbers.
ogwane wrote:
Ummm, last time i checked I was stacking Diseases,& that was last night
Just to be clear, we are saying you can't stack 2 diseases against the same stat. So if you are stacking a mind disease and a willpower disease on the same target, we all agree you can do that. However, earlier testing has shown that you can't stack two diseases against the same stat (for example, a single target B and a single target C). We're asking for proof, because everyone who has run this in a controlled duel has come up with the same result.
Run two experiments -
First test -apply your strongerdisease. Next, 10 seconds later apply your weaker disease. Can you get the weaker one to stick or is it always resisted? Make sure you check the messages on both the thrower side and the recipient side, since the messages may be bugged on one side or the other. If you think they weaker one did stick, are you actually seeing both ticks above the head of the target (10 seconds apart if you threw them 10 seconds apart)? Based on previous testing, my experience is that the weaker one will always get resisted.
Second test - apply theweaker disease until it sticks. Next, approximately 10 seconds later apply the stronger disease. Since this one is stronger, it won't get automatically resisted. Once you see it get past resists, watch the burn over the target's head. Are you seeing 2 distinct burns within 40 seconds? Specifically, if they actually stack, you should see the weaker one tick and then the stronger 10 seconds later (or whatever time between the throws). Based on previous testing, my experience is the stronger one will tick, but the weaker one won't.
Unlike poison stacking, you can't reliably rely on the actual burn numbers appearing over the target's head. As the target battle fatigue goes up, the actual tick amount will change. What is required is seeing multiple ticks (one for each disease) within the 40 second tick window.
Happymob wrote:
Just to be clear, we are saying you can't stack 2 diseases against the same stat. So if you are stacking a mind disease and a willpower disease on the same target, we all agree you can do that. However, earlier testing has shown that you can't stack two diseases against the same stat (for example, a single target B and a single target C). We're asking for proof, because everyone who has run this in a controlled duel has come up with the same result.
Message Edited by Obata on 02-10-2005 12:17 AM
Message Edited by PsionicHawk on 02-09-2005 10:31 PM
PsionicHawk wrote:
My previous testing had that happen also.
When a high level disease was on a target all other weaker diseases would say get the "has resisted" message. More powerful diseases would simply overwrite the weaker ones.
I'll do sometestingon this tommorow.
Message Edited by PsionicHawk on 02-09-2005 10:31 PM
I seem to get that message alot to, especially when I accidentally click my disease instead of something else, especially if it has already been diseased. Please post your findings, ill be interested to know.
PsionicHawk wrote:
Diseases do indeed stack like poisons now.
Single C disease was placed upon test subject.
20 seconds later Area B was placed upon test subject.
20 Seconds later Single C ticked
20 seconds later Area B ticked.
with disease's being stackable, i can already here the cries of people yelling "nerf"... Hopefully they wont, but I know its innevitable.
A: You can not stack two of the same level of the same type (area/single). You can, however, stack an area with a single as well as each of the different levels on each HAM bar. This would allow a total of 18 poisons on any single target
Q: Can I stack diseases
A: You can have one disease per bar. Including secondaries, this would allow a total of 9 diseases on any single target
Currently undergoing testing, this may have changed, update will soon follow.
I pulled this from the FAQ.
I always thought the bit about poisons was wrong- stacking 3x area and 3x single on a stat x9 stats = 81 poisons, which is what "You can, however, stack an area with a single as well as each of the different levels on each HAM bar" implies. This would make 81 poisons in total. I assume the count of 18 is incorrect in this case?
Secondly, I think we are now agreed that diseases do stack, exactly like poisons?
Any confirmation would be appreciated.