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Thread: Is Master CM so much better than 4404?

SgtStew
Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:54 pm
#1

Hi, i'm kinda new to the CM game and i was wondering if there is a dramatic difference between Master and just 4404. If theres not i would rather have a full melee prof done than an incomplete one or a ranged prof although i understand that CM/Rifleman owns. Any advice? Thanks ahead of time.



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Kupcake
Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:19 am
#2

med use is lower, which probably means you won't be able to use as powerful a mind poison as a MCM can use. Besides that you get a lot more wounds from healing mind on your group if you don't have master. (thats what i heard anyway)




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Pahdbacca
Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:06 am
#3

You do 1.75 times the effectiveness rating of meds in damage instead of 2.0 times the damage, speed is not changed, your throwing ranges is 2-5m lower, and your med use is a little lower meaning you cannot use area poison Cs at full damage potential (some experimentation needs to go into med use) with 4404 compared to master.


The number of wounds you get from using mind heal does not change.


For what it's worth, the distance and speed 'changes' made by the devs ruined master CM



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SgtStew
Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:57 pm
#4

so in your opinion MCM is definatly better then 4404 and i should just suck it up and do the grinding tree and either master a ranged prof or mostly master a melee prof?



Jus'tin Killmore
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jkray8472
Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:00 am
#5

He's saying the difference is negligible. In fact, except for /mindheal, 4004 CM is almost as good as Master.



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Pahdbacca
Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:01 pm
#6






Happymob wrote:





SgtStew wrote:

so in your opinion MCM is definatly better then 4404 and i should just suck it up and do the grinding tree and either master a ranged prof or mostly master a melee prof?




Personally, I think 4004 is the optimal use of skill points in combat medic. x4xx is only really useful for mindheal. xx4x is only really useful for self-crafting (it makes being a CM much cheaper). I think dabbling in a bit of doctor makes more sense than picking up mind heal.








What he said ^



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Pip Tazo = Master Doc / Swordsman - Always the CM at heart
Zhose U'nare = Master Smuggler / Pistoleer - resource hound

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vortexala
Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:37 pm
#7

What they said. But remember, that's just the way it will be for now. Post-CU(yes, we will get to that point eventually) being a Master CM will have more meaning...



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Happymob
Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:08 am
#8






SgtStew wrote:

so in your opinion MCM is definatly better then 4404 and i should just suck it up and do the grinding tree and either master a ranged prof or mostly master a melee prof?




Personally, I think 4004 is the optimal use of skill points in combat medic. x4xx is only really useful for mindheal. xx4x is only really useful for self-crafting (it makes being a CM much cheaper). I think dabbling in a bit of doctor makes more sense than picking up mind heal.





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ExperiencedPilot
Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:53 am
#9

So basiclly , if we are talking effectiveness then 4404 is fine ?

But if you wanna save some cash grab master ?



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Happymob
Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:51 am
#10






ExperiencedPilot wrote:

But if you wanna save some cash grab master ?




You won't makemuch (or any)cash at master, but at least you can craft your own poisons rather than buy. If you are buying, best case is you are looking at a cost of 250 credits or so per poison throw. It can be much higher.


If you don't mind running cash missions on the ground or in space to fund the CM habit, the master melee/CM4004/Doc dabbler template is better than Melee dabbler/Master CM.





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Gawzeera
Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:52 pm
#11

I'm new to combat med and i am seriously considering dropping master swoirdsman and picking up the crafting line in combat med.


The reason i'm considering this is because on my server eclipse i'm looking at paying anywhere from 40-70k for poison and ranged stims.

I would much rather spend my cash on the resources required to make my own packs than have to pay 60 for something that essentialy i'm gonna be throwing away.

I love being master swords but i'll be starting an alt soon and can always do master swords with him.




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ins0mniac
Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:06 pm
#12

w00t



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ins0mniac
Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:07 pm
#13

cm/rifleman is teh best heehee



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