Combat Medic Archive
Thread: CM should be removed from game period
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Jandir
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:11 am
#1
I am sick of CM how are you suposed to fight and take on a base when their are 40 other combat medics on the other side all throwing area poison and totaly kill 60 (fully mind buffed) of the other team in less the 5 mins. That is just dumb. I think you should be taken out of the game completly or have poison and desiese taken away from you. A real CM would never run around throwing poison they would run around helping people, your a medical class not a combat class which is what you seem to be picked for latly anyway. PS i am sayign this on both sides I dont like when I have a CM fighting with me and I dont like when i have one aganst me not a cry of waa i got beat, it is just rediclious what your class has become.
Message Edited by Jandir on 03-14-2004 04:13 AM
KoralanRondai
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:24 am
#2
So if they nerf CM, then you will start whining about Dizzy/KD and then Fire and then TKA and then whatever, but you guys have to stop crying for nerfs. Each prof has strong and weak points. Well most profs anyway 
Jandir
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:29 am
#3
I have never bitched about dizzykd from a tkm or fire from a commando or headshot from a rifleman I am not quick to rant to rebalance or remove something from the game, but CM is just rediclous.
Munga_Meds
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:41 am
#4
Opinion (and it is just that) noted.
Go back to your own forums now, please.
Thank you, don't come again!
/bye
Loonytic
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:42 am
#5
we should nerf rifleman instead there just too powerful... i got killed by one we should nerf them big time!!!
Loonytic
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:43 am
#6
omg i forgot to add i got rushed by 50 TKM... and i died about time we nerf them too!
Jandir
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:46 am
#7
it is not the fact that you get killed by them it is the fact that 5-10 combat medics can take out around 60-80 people in a matter of seconds fully mind buffed. The fact than you poison something and do damg with out even being there you can run in to a fight throw an area poison and take a shuttle out while everyone in the area dies because of it. Not like their where not doctors there because their was but with 60-80 with multipul poisions from 5-10 CM everone only lasted about 30 seconds, now that is just redclious.
Munga_Meds
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:03 am
#8
Poison doesn't kill, there is currently a +1 cap on any damage it does. This was to address the fish-flop dance issue that so many people had with long lasting poisons.
Poisons+Diseases will incap, and 3x incap with ANYTHING will kill. This is currently being discussed as a possible future fix, although most of us like it this way, as we devote SO many points to CM that most of us have abysmal weapon skills and couldn't hit the broadside of a barn... (ok some of us)
I can't comment on your situation, as the numbers you provided are very vague. Any TKA should have meditated it away, and any Doctors should have at least cured themselves and anyone else nearby. Any doctor participating in PvP should also have had the following: Mind buff (+1100), 2 drinks of brandy (lets call it +800), vercupti (old style if you still have it +400 mind regen) mental secondary buffs (on my wookiee at least +650/+600), muon (I don't PvP so unsure of the stats here)
This would give you: Mind 3000 Focus 2100 Willpower 2500... And this is just a rough estimate, without Muon thrown in.
Any combat class should have targeted any CM immediately and INCAPPED only. Any serious PvP'er I know would have had all this as well, and would have lasted long enough for the doctors to do their job.
As a wookiee who has no armor... I know that if I answer a friends call to help in PvP that I will die, after throwing the first poison. I will get so many eyeshots poking holes in my head that swiss cheese would get jealous. But here is where people make the mistake. Everyone wants FP, so someone will inevitably run over and DB me, stand over my corpse and gloat. I just clone and start all over again, at least until I get tired of paying for decay (although I'm told they took this out, and that I'll eventually get armor, so I may try PvP again).
What I notice is that people panic or get indignant when they get poisoned. Instead of retreating until it wears off, or defending your doctor, or meditating, people do whatever it is they do, and eventually they end up with 1 mind left, and on the front lines. They call foolish people who storm well fortified positions one thing in any army: DEAD.
I've meandered all over this topic, so I'll stop now. I don't even know why we bother trying to educate folks anymore. So many other people have compained, and with better logic and better facts. So many other people have refuted them, much better than I. It's all in here if you care to do a search for the word NERF. Hell - this forum gets it so much - we STICKIED it. No matter, people will still come in here and cry nerf. At least until they get what they want and find another template flavor of the month to go nerf.
/shrug - whatever man
Pahdbacca
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:30 am
#9
Munga_Meds wrote:
What I notice is that people panic or get indignant when they get poisoned. Instead of retreating until it wears off, or defending your doctor, or meditating, people do whatever it is they do, and eventually they end up with 1 mind left, and on the front lines. They call foolish people who storm well fortified positions one thing in any army: DEAD.
Well said. Too bad people still don't/won't listen.
SecretFire
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:55 am
#10
Jandir wrote:
I am sick of CM how are you suposed to fight and take on a base when their are 40 other combat medics on the other side all throwing area poison and totaly kill 60 (fully mind buffed) of the other team in less the 5 mins. That is just dumb. I think you should be taken out of the game completly or have poison and desiese taken away from you. A real CM would never run around throwing poison they would run around helping people, your a medical class not a combat class which is what you seem to be picked for latly anyway. PS i am sayign this on both sides I dont like when I have a CM fighting with me and I dont like when i have one aganst me not a cry of waa i got beat, it is just rediclious what your class has become.
Message Edited by Jandir on 03-14-2004 04:13 AM
I seriously doubt a team of 40 CMs went out and "totaly" killed a group of 60. I think you're just upset you died. I have NEVER seen 40 CMs travel in a pack and heck I'm a CM.
Oh and for the record, NO MEDICAL PROFESSION WILL HELP THE ENEMY GET OVER IT ALREADY. That is what you were, that is why you died. Part of PvP is death if you can't handle without coming to our forums to say we shouldn't exist, then PvP is just too hard for you. Stop doing it. Thanks.
DamianlXl
Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:25 am
#11
Jandir,
biological warfare is a fact of life.
Is killing an enemy with a rifle or a hammer somehow more honorable than using a virus?
its COMBAT-medic, hence they are IN COMBAT. They use medicalabilities to BATTLE!
NeoEcks
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:15 am
#12
thanks for your input
now go away
after publish 8... that is PUBLISH 8, if you are still crying in your breakfast cereal, you may come back and make one more asinine, rediculous, off-the-wall post
but only one
/wave
SpeCiaL_Ed_
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:32 am
#13
My only argument with this is...other combat professions miss. It's a cold day on Tat when you do.
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