Combat Medic Archive
Thread: How to defeat the combat medic super mind posion (so the nerf cryers stop whineing)
Disclaimer: I am not nor have I ever been a Combat medic, Nor do I have the desire to be one. I am a CH who does not want to see another profession nerfed into PvP uselessness because of whiners who don't understand that there is stragety involved in playing these games and fighting that goes beyond spamming special attacks.
That said to prove that Combet medics are not undefateable in PvP, I ran a few experiments with the help of a CM a few Docs and me. The mind posion used was enhanced with rancor bile so this is not the usual weak stuff.
Cure #1: CM uses area mind posion, wait for tick to kill mind,
Zabrac doc uses equalize, cures self, then cures others (will only work with a zabrak doc of course and works better on a buffed doc)
Cure #2: blue milk
anydoc uses blue milk to heal mind, cures self, then cures others
Cure #3 athia
same as above doesn't work as well but it helps.
Now please stop crying they are undefeatable!
There are other ways around it as well but that is for others to figure out, it would not be fair to CM's for me to post every way to counter your attacks here.
The main point is you are NOT UNDEFEATABLE! As some have claimed.
***edited for poor grammer and spelling which I am sure there is still plenty left****
Message Edited by taloncard on 03-08-2004 11:30 AM
How about a commando flamer on tatooine? Or some other planet. I heard that on Rori (supposed to be a swamp planet) you might have to run for 30 minutes to find enough water to put out a fire DOT without a Doc. Lok might be equally rough.
But hey... that would be bursting the bubble. Of course CMs are the root of all that is evil in this game.
taloncard wrote:
as I said stragety beyond spamming special attacks. I spend 90% of my time in PvP. I understand the logic of not just spamming specials. PvP is not a 1 on 1 only event it is done by groups there are many other ways to get a CM. a rifleman with mind bleed and Head shot 3 can make a doc or CM pretty useless too.
I am not disagreeing that the combat medic can be killed. However, killing him isn't necassarily the problem. If you manage to close in the 80m+ distance he tossed the poison from and catch him through his scout level terrain negotiation with a burst run, then there's a good chance you can kill him because of his lack of defenses. Killing him does nothing for the poison and disease tick that will incap you anyway even when he's in the cloner.
There are other ways around it as well but that is for others to figure out, it would not be fair to CM's for me to post every way to counter your attacks here.
The main point is you are NOT UNDEFEATABLE! As some have claimed.
As a combat medic, I can single handly remove a group of 30+ players from the field or at least render them useless while doctors scurry around trying to keep up with the poison and disease cures. Since the heal timer for the docs are the same as my poison, I can reapply it just as quick as they can cure it. I'm not speaking from an outside perspective, my doc/cm can accomplish this easily, I am speaking for my own experience as the profession in question unlike yourself. It takes 2 docs for every person in the opposing group to keep up with my poisons alone. Unbeatable? No... Close enough though.
***edited for poor grammer and spelling which I am sure there is still plenty left****
Message Edited by taloncard on 03-08-2004 11:30 AM
Rancor bile only enhances the number of overall charges on the poison/disease pack.
Actually 2 brandy's with +400 to m/f/w and 2 canape +600 to f/w will allow the doctor to regen their mind quickly. Blue milk is good in pinch, but the effects of brandy and canape are far better when combined with the dancer/musican buffs.
As a master CM
There is now 5 foods I can think of that adds to resists as well as the other drinks and foods mentioned. To beat a cm you have to get in close. TKA/Brawler Polearm the new weapons from Jaba's palace can blast the mind of the CM. You blast our mind we are down. BH use LLC long distance. Comando til doctors get burn cure burn us at close range.
There is no rocket science here. All not some but All combat medics have a weakness it is our mind and health. Since I have 80% kentic armor blasting health is not always wise but mymind there is not a whole lot of protection there.
As proven on Corbantis this weekend my huby and I battled in J-J's pvp doubles. Our opponents were both TKA/Brawlers my Husband buffed with master buffs by me went down they attacked his mind. I tried to heal his mind and was incapped by both through my mind. Another CM with Rifle combo I believe and they owned their first battle but when it was the brawlers vs both they rushed in and slaughtered both.
Moral of the story get in close hit hard
First off 5 stars to the poster from yours truely. 
"Yeah... But that requires a doctor... No other professions requires a doctor to counter."
Oooookay......lets sit down and think about that phrase. Now I am currently a CM and master Rifleman, and I have ZERO knockdown defense so I get owned by any profession that can use this move and I have no way to stop it (similar to your poison problem). Do you see me griping about it and calling nerf on the TKA forum? No. If I wanted to stop it would pick up pistoleer or fencer again. Just like ifyou REALLYwanted to stop poison you would pick up doctor 2-0-0-0. Oh, wait you are too lazy to do that aren't you? So you come here for the easy solution, NERF CM b/c they own me crap! Can't you understand that no one profession will have defense against EVERYTHING! Crap, is it really that hard to comprehend?
SithSaberMaster wrote:can use this move and I have no way to stop it (similar to your poison problem). Do you see me griping about it and calling nerf on the TKA forum? No.
You have a /stand macro, isn't it? KD is on a 30 seconds timer, even with dizzy you're still be able to stand in a few seconds.
Now, consider you kill the guy...problem solved. Kill the CM, you're still with no mind pool.
You can only compare poison with bleeds...well, it's quickly done.
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
How about a commando flamer on tatooine? Or some other planet. I heard that on Rori (supposed to be a swamp planet) you might have to run for 30 minutes to find enough water to put out a fire DOT without a Doc. Lok might be equally rough.
But hey... that would be bursting the bubble. Of course CMs are the root of all that is evil in this game.
No that would be Teras Kasi Artists. . . and Bounty Hunters. . . and Commando's. . . and Riflemen. . . and Fencers. . . and Swordsmen. . . and Carbineers. . .and Pistoleers. . . . did I miss anyone?
Yet another note about /burstrun. Get scout, most Combat medics won't have more than novice scout and perhaps a few boxes of hunting (I'm loosing my scout entirely come Publish 7 when camps are no more needed)
Now, you can burst run longer than any combat medic by just picking a few boxes of exploration. If you are a BH you are allready there. So when the CM runs out of air, you run him down. Just keep yourself alive for long enough (aitha, blue milk, moun)