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Thread: Master Rifleman/Master Combat Medic...How do you do?

Scrapdog
Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:41 pm
#1

Just like it says in title...I'm very much considering a major overhall to a couple professions i've been wanting to try...Any ideas or advice would be great...I'm intrigued a bit by the combat medic.


Thanks,


Scrapster
Pilai
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:35 pm
#2

He's saying he'sa TKA/CM right now and wants to change to a Rifleman/CM (I think anyways). I think it would be a great idea. The worstproblem I have as a Doc/CM is I can't ever kill anyone on my own. I've decimated entire groups of 3000+HAM (including mind)people and not been able to finish off any of them. I think since mind poison is the CMs best tool and mind is the HAM area rifleman are best at depleting,this would be an awesome setup. With sniper shot, you could probably be close to unstoppable...just as long as you don't fall downwhile dizzy ever
Scrapdog
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:38 pm
#3

Thanks, that's what im talking about...it's the combo i'm trying to do and wanted to know what people thought. The reason you just mentioned was why I was thinking of the combo...
Pilai
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:48 pm
#4

I swear I just heard CM had the worst DPS in the game....you did mean in PVE right? In PvP you CANNOT beat CM for pure DPS. Not in a group fight anyways.We might not be duel masters, butwesure as hell do the most damage to a group. 20 people losing 500 mind every 10 seconds is about 1000 dps from my calculations. Add to that the ability to pick individuals with the 3000 mind HAMs and get them for 1200 or so every 10 seconds (Unless you're like me with 1000+ per tick venom poison...then I can get about 1600 or so per tick). The problem with most CMs saying they're underpowered is you're talking about 1 vs 1. CM is a support profession, just like doctor. We aren't meant to beat someone down face to face, we're supposed to silently masacre entire groups at once. Which is exactly what we're able to do. Too well IMHO.


I've been on all sides of this argument. I started as a BH, went TKA for a holo, got Rifleman next from a holo, became the "uber" stack of the week (Rifleman/TKA) because I was "supposed" to, then went Doc/CM. I opened my slot on combat med, so I've stayed a Doc/CM because of how much I enjoy it. I'll tell you straight out I can do more damage as a CM than I could as TKA/Rifleman. I might have been better in one-on-one and in fights where I was alone as a TKA/Rifleman, but I am sooooooo much more powerfull as a CM/Doc when I have a group. I'm not trying to flame you, I just hate seeing all the CMs imediately cry out when someone says they are powerfull. I agree there are things we should be better at, but we are above and beyond anything you could even come close to considering weak.
Scrapdog
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:03 pm
#5

Have you ever tried Master Rifleman and Master combat medic together? That's my main question...It seems like a good combo??
Pilai
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:13 pm
#6

Never have, sorry. I can tell you right now it would be awesome at the very least though. Its all up to your playstyle really. If you like to 1vs1, I wouldn't suggest it. But if you're in a guild that hunts together a lot, I'd say go for it. The worst that can happen is you don't like it.
Manipulative
Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:54 pm
#7

I have been this combo for quite a while. In my opinion it's a great combo, except that I do get a lot of hate tells in PvP, but mostly from people that succumb to the jawa ion. I've never received hate tells about CM poison/disease usage. Considering I started both profs in October, long before either of them were flavor of the month (actually, quite the contrary, I was told Rifle outright sukced), those hate tells are particularly annoying.


At any rate, in small scale raids, I find my CM skills are mostly limited to healing. I can heal my friends from a distance, which is absolutely awesome. I rarely will use my CM skills on another player, because quite frankly, my jawa or T21 will take them down much, much faster. I mean 300-500 mind dmg per second blows away any CM poison/disease. It's not even close.


1:1, where the CM skills come in the most, is against a defense stacker. If I'm miss, miss, miss, forever with my rifle, then I'll bust out the poisons/disease. But mind you, during a 4 second throw, a lot of bad things can happen.


In a large scale raid, with lets say 20+ ppl, then a CM can start using AoE poison/disease to some effect. At this scale, the opposition is bound to have docs. At first, you'll probably catch them unaware, but after a while, the other side will either go quickly away, or they get real smart, real fast.


Rifle, on the other hand, is almost pure pleasure. headshot 3 and strafe 2. With enough mind secondaries (BE brandy, canape, music buff) you can fire these 2 specials at will, and not be burning your own mind (that's right, zero mind usage). I frequently PvE without buffs, just with brandy/canape, and youcan tackle all but the most demanding of critters just fine this way (let's get real, you still aren't going to solo a Krayt).


Rifle has its weaknesses. I'm not going to say I never lose, but when I lose it's usually because I'm outnumbered, or I'm up against another rifle who probably hasa krayt jawa (sure would like one of those).


Summary: Rifle is fantastic. CM is great for area heals. CM poison/disease is used infrequently in PvP, but when used can be a tide turner.




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Zito75
Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:21 pm
#8

These guys are confusing me...I'm a Master CM/Master Rifleman and I wreak peoples mind pools...it's awsome...no matter what, if I live or die, that person has got his mind at 1 for a while



Zito Ipod - Radiant
Master Rifleman - Master Combat Medic
Zito75
Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:24 pm
#9






Zito75 wrote:

These guys are confusing me...I'm a Master CM/Master Rifleman and I wreak peoples mind pools...it's awsome...no matter what, if I live or die, that person has got his mind at 1 for a while






agh to add on to this...Master Rifleman/Master CM is a PvP template...Rifleman is nasty in PvE too, no doubt, but CM is rather pointless besides healing other people...the mind heal comes in handy a lot, even though it gives you some wounds.



Zito Ipod - Radiant
Master Rifleman - Master Combat Medic
Pixen
Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:22 pm
#10

I'm a wookiee master CM/rifle, and I love it.

I can kill from a distance, which helps a lot in dealing with my wookiee glass jaw.

I don't PVP, but I'm awesome support to a team, and I can solo well. And I deal out more damage than anyone I ever group with (including some major damage builds).

Biggest issue: you'd better have someone who gives you WPs for med resources and good meat suppliers. I have 4 points spare, and nothing to use those on. No artisan, no scout.
Pilai
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:30 pm
#11

Gotta love them 1 star bandits lol....Anyone with half a brain, please at least get me 2 stars so people can read it and decide for themselves that its crapola.
oblivion3134
Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:49 am
#12

Poorly since CM is a waste of points. DPS is, from what I gather on these boards, horribly underbalanced for CM. Just take teras kasi instead.



tepor
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Scrapdog
Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:52 am
#13

That's what i was forever tkm...I'm looking for a change...this sounded like a good one..?
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