Cities And Housing Archive

I agree completely.


Maybe base the number of lots available on the profession??

i disagree.

while it is a pain to have to decide how to use a limited amount of lots. that is an intended design feature in the game. it promotes us having to make decisions, and that is a key feature in any good Roleplaying Game.

also, it is this way because they want to promote interdependency among players.

if everyone with a master crafter box had enough lots to harvest all their own resources, then another player couldn't start a resource company. it would make people more independent, and less interdependent, and that's a bad thing in these types of games.

i already see enough independency in this game, where there's hundreds of tiny resource vendors scattered across the planets. why not organize a resource corporation? it's MUCH easier to cooperate with others and combine efforts to get things done, than it is to compete with others.
competition in this game is a great thing, but the current situation with many small independent crafter/vendors all around makes for a VERY difficult market to succeed in.
the only people who truely succeed are those who have the millions to buy the skill tapes to get to 12pts in their craft.

this game is set up just about PERFECTLY for large corporations to be set up and compete for market dominance.
but instead most player choose to do things the hard way and try and go it alone. it baffles me why they choose this.

speaking of building up corpoations to dominate a particular market.
i did just that with radioactive power. i knew of a few large resource companies who needed bulk power, but saw there were no vendors who could supply them with the amounts they needed. so i hired other players to run generators for me, and i surveyed each week, and had them move the generators around. i would loan them the generators, and pay for the power they harvested. then resell it for a slight profit.
everyone involved made millions from this, but eventually i got burned out doing all the surveying on my own.
but with better organization, and more help with the upper management, there would be almost no problems.

that right there is a totally different way to play and enjoy this game.

if we allowed people to become too independent (more so than they already are), then things like that wouldn't be possible. and this game might as well be a single player console game.

I certainly would support a change to make the number of lots dependant on skills. We already have that as far as merchants go (where more merchant skills = ability to list more items), I feel that a move to progessive allocating of lots would make a lot of sense. On kettemoor the housing/harvester market does not support prices in the 10+cpu range that are common for weapons/armour/food etc. That being said, high quality materials are still required to produce high lvl harvesters. The only way that archs can make a go is to swap out some lots (you can view this as player co-operation if you'd like) in order to free up sufficent to be able to aquire resources. (or find a stable mining partner who is willing to sell at 1.5-2 cpu for high quality resources..a longshot to be sure).

If Architects (and ahem. Shipwrights) were alloted a higher number of lots, this would not have any impact on the majority of the resource sales (as quite frankly I've only ever purchased resources as my time as a Weaponsmith). The major impact would that dedicated miners would potentially resort to picking up the arch skills to achieve the greater number of lots.

I do agree that co-operatives can be constructed to harvest bulk resources (and the more power to you), but I haven't met many professional miner's who would sell decent quality minerals at prices that would permit an architect to make a profit)

Or, lot swaps could be nerfed, and no solution put in place for those players, increasing overall frustration with the game.
Certainly giving the possiblity for futher lots in exchange of removing the fields of burning harvesters would be a good deal.

/shrug...I'm a frustrated ex-architect in case it isn't evident (also ex-Weaponsmith...never did make 12 point...)

btw. the Nova doesn't take a lot anymore (/cheer)

Message Edited by Zarquonlal on 05-18-2005 08:26 PM