Cities And Housing Archive

Message Edited by Tenia on 05-11-2005 02:20 PM

Sounds ok, but I think you can only do this for items that are in condemed houses, there are a lot of players that still use lots from player that have quitted. I do as a WS, I need all the storage/factories I can get and I pay the maintenance (and power for the factories) so the houses with it's belongings shouldn't go Poof... Just my thoughts

I'd like them to do something with all the condemned structures littering the galaxy. If they just don't want to pay it, they should pick it up. If they don't play, their stuff shouldn't keep me from using that spot.

I am a bit dismayed that my suggestion hasn't generated much discussion or feedback.

I have seen a number of hot threads debating these issues, and how important to the game a solution is. I have come up with what I think is a damn good solution and only two people comment.

Maybe its such a fantastic idea that your alltoo shocked to reply?

Message Edited by Tenia on 05-12-2005 11:03 AM

I really like the idea. I think you hit on one problem why these issues haven't been fixed and that is because Sony does not want to give an extra kick to those standing in the doorway about ready to leave. And your idea really hits home with a solution to that aspect. I do like it a lot.

I do think there is also another problem as to why things haven't been address and that is simply because few people are mayors and most people just don't care that much about cities. But the truth of the matter is that how cities work does effect players in many ways that they might not even realize. Player Cities do build the community aspect that is so critical in making MMORPG games playable much longer then other games. If the community suffers then the long term playablitiy of the game suffers and SOE will eventualy lose players just because they don't feel like playing. So it may seem that few people care agressivly about how cities work, but I still believe it is critical to the long term sucess of the game.

And if you think about it at some point the entire player communities will look like trash heeps of old buildings all around dead cities that once had life but now have none. In time cities will die that is the nature of things. If no one ever cleans up what sort of mess are we going to have to look at in the game down the road.

As for the idea itselfthere have been some reasonable points mentioned, But how about this for a solution. SOE could try to put in some code to identify inactive players and also something for dead players. Sometimes a character is simply deleted and still has items in the game other times players are still paid up thier accounts but just haven't logged in. Some distinctions might want to be created there as well.

But continuing on your idea. How about one method of controling structures in cities is that the mayor should have the ability to condem a structure. Outside the player cities people are on their own and a game system would determine which structures are inactive. But places that have mayors who run cities could take on the job of deciding which structures must go. Reguardless of active status or not. If someone does want to continue paying and the mayor doesn't mind then let it stand.

But I would suggest that the mayor of player cities have an extra power, and that is to condem any structure in the city they see fit active or not. This way they can control the layout of their cities better. Once someone has been granted zoning rights and they place something there is nothing the major can do about it to fix up the layout of the city if the person doesn't place it in the right place.

Player cities would look a lot better if Mayors could take down structures in cities to clean them up. Of course some safe guards should be put in place. This doesn't have to be a fast process. It should take awhile, In fact it should take longer then the election span of a Mayor so a new mayor can run if people get mad about houses being condemed and they can put in a new mayor before their structure would have to come down.

Just a few thoughts hopefully some is listening

I am bumping this, as it generated some good discussion before, but came while everyone was still trying to cope with CU.

Be nice to see some Dev feedback to it.

OR just do like I am doing, pull up the city and say forget it. I asked for help with this and was told there was nothing they could do so now New Liberty is becoming a ghost town of ghosts. I am just drawing it out to try and recoup some of the millions in the treasury at 50K a day, in the meantime, only vacated houses are left with a citizenship of players with their residences now in other towns or canceled accounts.

Crazy setup. All SOE had to do was poof the houses that were maintenance in the red and accounts canceled or characters not logged in for some months.

Message Edited by glory on 06-19-2005 12:20 PM

Bumping this again, as I have been told and read in a few places, that they are alledgeley working on something like the system I suggested in my original post.

Can anyone point me in the direction of any official posts regarding the alledged 'upcoming' 'building wipe' please?

Thanks.

I don't know what they could do to force the uprooting of houses, let alone figuring out to store the objects in compressed format. However, I think that in the delete character window, they should have a page to remind people to uproot houses and the like or put them into the bank.

I'm in favor of condemned buildings being removed all together. I was away for a while and lost all my house things due to decay on several of my characters. The way I viewed it when I returned was that if i wasnt smart enough to find a reliable way to keep my upkeep on my house or deed it and store it all in a backback or bank it was my own fault for losing it. The decay system needs to be reacivated badly though. Seems like everywhere you go there are burning harvesters and decayed buildings. I guess it would be nice if all your stuff dumped in the bank but i would rather see stuff dumped on the ground outside the house when it falls and let existing players have a chance at collecting it for 15 minutes to an hour after it goes. They are paying to play the game after all.