Cities And Housing Archive

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Owen-Lars wrote:

Think he meant CH, not too hard to realise that eh?

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I don't like the idea at all. One of the funnest parts of being a ranger is hunting/harvesting. If something takes that away, there just wouldn't be enough for the rangers. Tracking is fun but the hunt at the end is a lot more fun. Trapping is fun, but it's broke and once again it's the hunting that's really fun. Exploring the winderness is fun to, but hunting along the way is more fun. Hunting is just the best part and the largest source of income. Don't people always say that you have to like your job, well take harvesting from us and I don't like my job as much anymore.

sgtBilko* said:

What if....there was a harvestor that could harvest your animal meat, hide, bone, or milk? Impossible huh? how bout this idea.

Just like any other harvestor in the game you can buy it from a architect in deed form and place it(no need for concentration, ill explain). Some harvesters are made by artisans, but in general, yep, get your point. Keep the cert for an elite craft prof.

Now actually making the harvestor.

1. A architect of ---- skill has a schematic.
2. The architect needs 2 BE componets tho. For example: a cloning device or somthing diffrent.
3. craft it, and you get your farm deed.

Given who this is 'taking' from, I'd have hoped it would take a shedload of organigs to produce...

Now how to keep rangers jobs intact. ranger is a Lifestyle, not a profession

1. Rangers can trap things, and you do need animals to run for farm. For every farm you need 10 animals, the ranger will go out and trap the animals, which with the right trap will apear as a animal in a cage in your inventory. So only rangers can sell captured animals for your farm. Also depending on how fat and healthy the animal is, that is how much bone you will get.

Whre is my motivation in providing these creatures to you (This should be a CH skill, surely?) As raw resources the hide/skin/bone of ten animals is minimal. The resale value to me of those resources when the 'farmer' is going to reap a far greater return seems imbalanced.


2. Once the hunting season for that resouce ends, u will need to get new animals. they oens inside will "die". Resulting in a stream of /tells to the Rangers pleading with them to get out there and trap another ten critters. Meanwhile, a great shift of Jibrovian Turnip meat has just come in and is selling for 450cpu... where did all them pesky hunters go? We already /conceal as soon as somebody mentions that other farmer and his daft pirate chums...

Spark notes:
1. you get a farm that harvests bone, hide , meat or milk Rangers get to participate in undermining their own business by propping up an enhanced harvest for scouts?
2. it needs a BE and architect to make it And a CH for the beasties, really.
3. you dont need to put it on any concentration
4. you need 10 captured animals to put in the farm to start harvesting.

if i need to clarify anything say so, if the idea sucks so say

Way back in the olden days, one of my early posts was something along the same lines and, by heck, I got flamed, thats' why I've tried to show some of the weaknesses in the proposal itself.

The idea of a nerf herders farm has it's attractions as a 'mini game' and that's why it does keep reappearing. However, the consistent opposition of the Scout and Ranger communities suggests that any attempt to get it in game would result in some serious boycotting and protesting.

As others have pointed out, it's unusual to have a resource shortage at any time, gluts tend to be more the rule.

Here's a for instance. Doc B has a scout buddy / an alt account. He uses that to put up a farm, stocks it with the current uber avian. For the cost of ten nuna and a schematic he can generate millions of credits worth (in terms of the cost of purchasing the meat normally). He then uses that to make megabuffs, is ultra popular and is makeing an immense fortune over and above what the docs were making around him.

Pretty soon you have other docs in on the secret.

Now, who is going to buy the Novice Scouts 1000 units of meat that he's slaved over for a week? Or the master Rangers stack of avian? The retail price for us suppliers would go through the floor. We'd then have to look for other ways of making that defecit up. Given that your infernal machines effectively magic organics out of the air, this would kill the entire harvesting business stone dead.

But that apart, it's a great idea


* Love the forum name, btw. Wish I'd thought of it, lol.

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sgtBilko wrote:

What if....there was a harvestor that could harvest your animal meat, hide, bone,or milk? Impossible huh? how bout this idea.

Just like any other harvestor in the game you can buy it from a architect in deed form and place it(no need for concentration, ill explain).

Now actually making the harvestor.

1. A architect of ---- skill has a schematic.

2. The architect needs 2 BE componets tho. For example: a cloning device or somthing diffrent.

3. craft it, and you get your farm deed.

Now how to keep rangers jobs intact.

1. Rangers can trap things, and you do need animals to run for farm. For every farm you need 10 animals, the ranger will go out and trap the animals, which with the right trap will apear as a animal in a cage in your inventory. So only rangers can sell captured animals for your farm. Also depending on how fat and healthy the animal is, that is how much bone you will get.

2. Once the hunting season for that resouce ends, u will need to get new animals. they oens inside will "die".

Spark notes:

1. you get a farm that harvests bone, hide , meat or milk

2. it needs a BE and architect to make it

3. you dont need to put it on any concentration

4. you need 10 captured animals to put in the farm to start harvesting.

if i need to clarify anything say so, if the idea sucks so say

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JBMat wrote:

You really should read what has been said about this on the Ranger and Scout forums. Universally, this idea has been flamed, scorched and killed deader than dead by both forums.

There are more than enough Rangers/Scouts to supply the needs of 99.9% of the universes and all the artisans contained therein. Some servers have even had recent gluts of some resources.

Right now Rangers don't have "live traps", nor do they want any. They want the traps they have to work better so they can harvest more. Rangers want changes and live traps weren't even in the top 15. Besides, this steps on the Bio Engineers toes. You know, the profession that tames baby animals.

One factor you are ignoring is the fact that some resources, most notably high end meats, come into spawn and then despawn in days, not weeks. You would be running Rangers ragged trying to keep up with animals. Yet another factor - some professions don't need high end material - tailors just need hides - yet your hide bearing animals would die as the meat despawned.

As a Master Ranger, I wouldn't bother getting animals for your "farmers", you are only cutting into my market and stopping me from making money.

As you asked for it - this idea really sucks

JB

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