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Thread: Thakitillo: How does it work?
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Tango88
Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:26 am
#1
Hi all,got 2 questions to ask with regards to Thakitillo :
1. is it correct to assume, that mytotal def vs KD would be say,+150,when I consume +100 Thakitillo + my existing template's +50 def vs KD?
2. If so, I undertsand that def vs KD caps at +125. So it would'ntmake a differenceif I consume +90 or +100 thakitillo if my template's def vs KD is 50 ?
Thks in advance.
Message Edited by Tango88 on 12-15-2004 12:28 AM
sciguyCO
Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:05 am
#2
1. Yes, Thakitillo's bonus stacks on top of any existing defense vs. KD skill mods (from either your template or clothing SEAs).
2. First: the only skills with a "hard cap" of 125 are melee defense, ranged defense, dodge, counterattack, and block. All other skills can be pushed as high as you want.
The devs have stated that there is always a 5% chance of a KD attack working, regardless of how high the target's defense skill is, and always a 5% chance of failing, regardless of how low the defense is. If the defense vs. KD is your chance of evading the KD attack, anything above 95 might be pointless.
The catch is that we don't have a clear picture on how the "defense vs. {whatever}" skills work. Different KD attacks might have a different "potency" (chance of sticking), with Pistol Whip < BH's KD < Force KD, for example. The actual chance of sticking might look like this:
KD_odds = Attack_KD_potency - target.DefenseVsKD
KD_odds = minimum ( KD_odds, 95)
KD_odds = maximum ( KD_odds, 5)
if ( Random(0, 100) < KD_odds ) then target.State = KnockedDown
So having Defense vs KD above 95 could be beneficial against high potency KD attacks like Force Knockdown 3.
Finally, Defense vs. KD doesn't do anything to the "dizzy + posture change" combo. You might look into investing in Ithorian Mist (+18ish defense vs. dizzy) if that's what you're trying to prevent.
Tango88
Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:27 pm
#3
Thks for your reply sciguy. Have a better understanding of how it works now. 
sciguyCO
Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:31 pm
#4
A quick addition that I noticed could use some clarificaiton.
sciguyCO wrote:
2. First: the only skills with a "hard cap" of 125 are melee defense, ranged defense, dodge, counterattack, and block. All other skills can be pushed as high as you want. And skill caps only take into account skill increase from skill boxes and SEAs.Food (and Squad Leader) bonuses will add onto even a capped skill.
Ikooga
Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:18 pm
#5
So someone with 125 Melee defence can eat some Vegeparsine and have 150 Melee Defence, and all 150 work?
Javek
Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:16 am
#7
Ikooga wrote:
So someone with 125 Melee defence can eat some Vegeparsine and have 150 Melee Defence, and all 150 work?
I dont think so. SciguyCO wrote :
"2. First: the only skills with a "hard cap" of 125 are melee defense, ranged defense, dodge, counterattack,
and block. All otherskills can be pushed as high as you want."
So you would be wasting your time eating Vegeparsine if you are already capped at 125.
Message Edited by Javek on 12-20-2004 02:17 PM
sciguyCO
Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:04 am
#8
Javek wrote:
Ikooga wrote:
So someone with 125 Melee defence can eat some Vegeparsine and have 150 Melee Defence, and all 150 work?
I dont think so. SciguyCO wrote :
"2. First: the only skills with a "hard cap" of 125 are melee defense, ranged defense, dodge, counterattack,
and block. All otherskills can be pushed as high as you want."
So you would be wasting your time eating Vegeparsine if you are already capped at 125.
True, but I left a part out
The 125 cap is only from skill boxes and SEAs. Bonuses from food (vegeparsine for melee defense, Thundercloud for ranged defense) and bonuses from having a squad leader in your group stack past 125.
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