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Thread: Havla testing

sciguyCO
Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:49 pm
#1

Well, since it's hard to get decent help, and I'm shifting skills around, I decided to see what all this was doing. I had found myself with clone wounds and a spare 15 skill points, so I picked up novice medic and headed for the medcenter.


I made up two havlas: one enhanced with 100 recovery time bonus, one unenhanced with 48 (I meant it to be 50, but my last experimentation point in filling was a crit fail, bringing everything down). I popped a Brandy to make sure I wouldn't run out of Mind, and got to work.


Doing /tendwound while not under the effect of the food took 30s to bring up the "you are now ready to heal more wounds". I ate the 48 havla, and it still took 30s for the message to appear. Thinking that maybe it was a system message problem, I tried /tendwound immediately. It said "You cannot do that for another 15 seconds". Well, that was promising. I waited 15s, and tried again.


"You must wait before you can heal wounds or apply enhancements again".


Well, crap. I kept trying, but the tendwound didn't work until the normal 30s expired.


I used up the rest of the heals on that Havla, picked up a few more wounds, then tried the 100 bonus. This still took 30s to display the "ready to heal more wounds", but when I tried to do several in a row, it let me. Well,at least until I burned up all my mind.


I'm thinking that the flag for whether or not you can heal wounds, damage, or buff is on some hard-coded timer, which is different from whatever timer the havla is affecting. The 100 recovery may be bypassing that somehow. That, or there's some minimum time for heal actions, but since I did this with just Novice medic, without any heal speed bonuses, that strikes me as wrong.


Any other chef/medics out there that can add any info?







Kriles Ch'artoff , Chilastra server
Master Chef (retired)
Currently doing....stuff
Cibila
Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:53 pm
#2

Im not 100% sure, but I believe I read that wound and injury treatment speed apply only when you are healing someone else. It does not increase the speed at which you heal yourslef. I dont know if this is a bug and is still present or if it was fixed. So you might want to try your test on another palyer.

Cibila
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Message Edited by Cibila on 04-10-2004 11:54 PM

MuttonJedi
Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:18 am
#3

I didn't think havla was supposed to affect how quickly you can heal wounds or buff, but how quickly you can heal normal damage. I think the test to try would be to get some damage, tumble or something, then see how fast you can heal up with a stim A.


Mutton
sciguyCO
Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:22 am
#4

Ok, tried it again this morning, this time actually using some wound packs on someone waiting in the medcenter.


No havla: 30s between heals

With 48 bonus havla: Told I have to wait 15s, but between 15 and 30s got the "you must wait..." message.


Got her healed up before using all the "next X heals", but since this looks like the same behavior I was seeing when healing myself, I'd expect the 100 bonus havla would allow the instant heals.


I also tested with stimpacks on myself. I tumbled a bit to drain off some health and action. Without havla, it took 8s before I could heal again. With the 48 havla, it still took 8s before I got the "you are now ready to heal more damage", but if I got a heal command in between 4 and 8s, the game gave the "you must wait" message. With the 100 havla, I could heal immediately (although the "you are now ready to heal" message still popped up after 8s).


Since a 100 bonus havla does allow buff and wound healing to be done immediately, I'd expect that this food is supposed to work on damage, wounds, and buffs (basically a bonus to both the "injury speed" and "wound speed" skills).


I /bugged it and I'll see if I can get some response from the devs on this.





Kriles Ch'artoff , Chilastra server
Master Chef (retired)
Currently doing....stuff
MuttonJedi
Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:36 pm
#5

Oh, I missed in your first post that the +100 havla was letting you heal wounds quickly. Pretty nice food then if it were working


Mutton
LeviathanAK
Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:11 am
#6

I played around with this a little as well. I found that Havla with 97 power had essentially zero effect in when you could lay down the next doc buff, (same effect as you found with 48), and one with 104 lets you run through a series of buffs with no delay at all. Apparently, under 100 is broken and does effectively nothing, but over 100 lets you heal/buff with zero delay.
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