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Thread: some noob chef/be questions.

super_moomoo
Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:48 am
#1

ok heres somequestions i either didnt look hard enough for the answer in the guide or they are not there. theres a few BE related one im hopeing someone can tell me about.

Chef related-
1.) If im using a cask (largest working glass as i understand) do the stats on the resources matter? like i need 900OQ+ gemstone to get 18 uses? or would say 80OQ gemstone work?

2.) Same as question 1 but for dough and soypro and alcohol do the stats on those matter in the final product?

3.) using the spreadsheet in the link (lists all the resources needed and values and stuff) it lists like 20 vegetables. or 20 cerel. what does that mean? i have rori tubers if it asks for 20 vegetables could i use the tubers? and if i have wheat i could use it for cereal? Is it basically saying anything that counts as a vegetable can be used here (ie beans, tubers, and whatever else is a vegetable?


BE realted-

1.) When gathering meat what stats do i need to look for? PE,OQ, DR what? i cant seem to find anything on the BE forum.


Im sure theres more to come but those are the ones bugging me for now.

Message Edited by super_moomoo on 01-25-2005 06:54 AM



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Kryxal
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:01 am
#2






super_moomoo wrote:
BE realted-

1.) When gathering meat what stats do i need to look for? PE,OQ, DR what? i cant seem to find anything on the BE forum.






Then you probably haven't looked very hard, people make a point of saying that the formula given in-game is wrong when it say 33/33/33 for OQ/PE/FL, it's 50/30/20 on those stats. DR doesn't matter.



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seerivad
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:33 am
#3

1.) If im using a cask (largest working glass as i understand) do the stats on the resources matter? like i need 900OQ+ gemstone to get 18 uses? or would say 80OQ gemstone work?

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Doesn't matter, use the lowest cheapest you can find. it takes 75K of Crytaline to make a run of casks.



2.) Same as question 1 but for dough and soypro and alcohol do the stats on those matter in the final product?

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Again doesn't matter, use the worst stuff (gring quality) you can find. Don't waste good resources on these.


The only thing i am unsue about is Veghash when used as a sub component since it is actually a food and not a specified sub component. anyone know here ?



3.) using the spreadsheet in the link (lists all the resources needed and values and stuff) it lists like 20 vegetables. or 20 cerel. what does that mean? i have rori tubers if it asks for 20 vegetables could i use the tubers? and if i have wheat i could use it for cereal? Is it basically saying anything that counts as a vegetable can be used here (ie beans, tubers, and whatever else is a vegetable?

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This can varry depending on what you are making. A sub that list cereal can use any grains such as wheat, rice, corn etc. Same would go for Vegetables and so on.


Making products though is a bit different in some cases. The product may say vegitables but will only take vegetable greens and won't take say Tubers or Fungi. Fruits is a good example of this, you have to use fruits when asked for this in crafting. Even though fruits is considered a general class of resource that encumpasses fruits, berries and flowers.


1.) When gathering meat what stats do i need to look for? PE,OQ, DR what? i cant seem to find anything on the BE forum.

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Be tissues use OQ, PE and Flavor as the stats needed. This I know for sure on the BSN and INN's. The easiest way to tell is to select the resource in a crafting tool or use the data pad and scroll down. This gives you all the %'s and stats that are used in experimentation. These are the only stats that matter to you as a crafter for that product.


One way to boost your stats as a BE is to use wood in your products. Wood only has 1 stat that matters in crafting of nuetrients (may be others as well). Since it only has the stat of OQ that counts for experimentaion its the only stat that matters. Always easier to get a good product out of something that only has 1 stat instead of 3 that effects your experimentation.


Hope this helps
sciguyCO
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:45 am
#4




seerivad wrote:



3.) using the spreadsheet in the link (lists all the resources needed and values and stuff) it lists like 20 vegetables. or 20 cerel. what does that mean? i have rori tubers if it asks for 20 vegetables could i use the tubers? and if i have wheat i could use it for cereal? Is it basically saying anything that counts as a vegetable can be used here (ie beans, tubers, and whatever else is a vegetable?




Maybe a clearer way to explain it is to point you at the resource tree on swgcraft.com.


Each resource category has sub-categories. If a schematic has a resource requirement that is not a "bottom level" resource (for flora that'd be something like Tatooinian Berry Fruit), then you can use anything below that level.


So your Rori tubers have this "hierarchy":


Organic -> Flora -> Flora Food -> Seeds -> Vegetables -> Vegetable Tubers -> Rori Vegetable Tubers


So you can use that resource in a schematic requiring any of those 7 categories. Tubers count as a vegetable, so you can use these in anything requiring "Vegetables".


Fruit gets a little confusing. The parent categories for Tatooinian Fruit looks like this:


Organic -> Flora -> Flora Food -> Seeds -> Fruit -> Fruits -> Tatooinian Fruit


Note the confusing addition/removal of a final "s" on the last three. If a schematic calls for "Fruit" (with no "s"), you can use Fruits (with an "s"), Berries, or Flowers. If a schematic calls for "Fruits" (with an "s") you can only use Fruits. And if it calls for "Tatooinian Fruit", you have to use "Fruits" (with an "s") harvested on Tatooine; you can't use, say, Tatooinian Flowers.

Message Edited by sciguyCO on 01-25-2005 10:46 AM





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Decibles
Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:59 pm
#5

If you used wood...as mentioned above to make BE additives.....wont that only give you say...33% ... as opposed to using something that has all three stats?... I thought that would have hurt your final result. no?



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sciguyCO
Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:54 pm
#6




Decibles wrote:

If you used wood...as mentioned above to make BE additives.....wont that only give you say...33% ... as opposed to using something that has all three stats?... I thought that would have hurt your final result. no?





No, it can come out better, especially if your flora has worse PE/FL than the meat.


It's due to how the crafting system deals with missing stats. You use high OQ wood in the "Organic" slot of the tissue, and flora and meat in the other two. The lack of PE and FL on the wood doesn't bring down the effectiveness, and can end up better than using a flora/meat resource.


It's a little hard to explain. There's a web-based tissue calculator here, maybe playing around with some numbers would help give you a feel for it. Put in some flora/meat stats, then compare the results using those for the organic vs. some wood with just 999 OQ.







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MagillaGorilla
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:47 pm
#7

Quick questions on using wood for BE tissues...........will any type of the 3 woods work (Conifer, Deciduous, Evergreen)?


Magilla
sciguyCO
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:53 pm
#8






MagillaGorilla wrote:

Quick questions on using wood for BE tissues...........will any type of the 3 woods work (Conifer, Deciduous, Evergreen)?


Magilla





Yes. You could use any flora, any meat, any milk, any hides or bones (I think). "Organic" means anything from a creature or harvested with a flora harvester.






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