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Thread: Food Awareness Week :D

cplblunder1983
Sat May 29, 2004 5:45 pm
#1


Hi all, i've been a chef for about 3 weeks now, and am loving it.


One thing i'm not lovingis Vasarian Brandy and Vag Canape. I guess i don't like the cheffing community being pigeonholed into food 2 foods, ESPECIALLY when ahrisa is better than canape.


So i'm intending to make a food awareness week on my home server chimera. A little story with an amazing use of the the food in question, some in detail information on the food and finally a time and date where i'll be handing out free samples.


I'd like the chef community's input on what stuff which should be examined.. not so much ignoring the foods which are popular atm but including other foods which may not be considered. Also if people do it on more than one server it'll increase recognition across all servers which can't be bad. Plus those giving out samples can only generate positive word of mouth


These are the ideas i have so far


Grinding enhancers


Rakirian Burnout

Dweezle

Ormachek (Unsure on the use of this)

Citros Snow cake


Burnout unbed is +10unarmed dmg when i make it andthats like an additional box in the tka tree. Not bad and at only 2400cr per 3use its good value for money


Dweezle is GREAT for scouts. I gave my mate grinding scout for BH as a thanks for him letting me use his lots. Again its unBEd and priced at 2400cr for 6uses! +10 trapping for 15mins and low filling means this would help grinders massively my friend said the differrence was significant, increasing both the level of critter he was trapping and success rate.


Ormachek is tricky, i haven't made it and have heard mixed reviews, dunno if its viable to include. Perhaps one to tag as look into in the future, with revamps perhaps improving it.


Snow cake is another great one, inc acc is so groovy for marksman profs. Helps grind brilliantly for both regular marksman and latterly commando. Also a good staple food of the commando and hvy swordsman.


Medical


Bivoli - Everyone knows it but still worth mentioning

Havla- SHOULD be known by everyone, but seems to be quite unaware on my server (well in my guild at least) well worth doing a feature on


Crafting


Pyollian Cake- Many believe this still bugged but i use it religously, it seems to have better repercussions than port.

Bespin Port- Again another well known one (in crafting circles at least) but worth sticking in


Scouting


Nutricake- With 5mins solid burstrun this should be in massive demand. But it seems to have passed the public by..... (thats with a flavour enhancer)

Almond Munchies- Only +10 creature taming but SO easy to make, and sell very cheaply so its worth CHs to use em!

Veghash- Rangers will already be using this but it can't hurt to inform the noobie scouts


Buffs


Brandy- Obvious :S

Vagerian- Again everyone knows about this

Vercupti- Double buff vercupti seems v. popular with pvp players etc but could do with an awareness boost.

Kwick Swirl/Won won- Like canape, dunno if worth of a mention

Ahrisha- Slowly gaining in popularity but worth promoting more, it outstrips canapes and only uses med adds.

Gruuvan Shaal/Scrimpi- Worth mentioning?

Accarragm/Garrmorl- Woth mentioning? i know garm is bugged


Pet Food


Sweesonberry Rolls- I think these would be popular but its a shame about the milk reqs


Others i am interested in but never looked at


Karkan Ribs- Low fill/inc trnadoshan regen seems awesome but have no idea wot it means!

Jaar- Inc Wookie Roar, again is this ever used?

Artisan products-- Tea/noodles/candy all seem nice little increases.

Synsteak/flameout- no idea on demand attack protection seems to low IMHO

Smugglers Delight- Seems popular with a few select customers, but are spices used much anymore?

Entertainer buff food- Seems nice but will entertainers bother?


Well thats about it, i'd appreciate feedback on my suggestions, and if i should select 7 (1 a day) from the above or group them together to relevant groups (like i did). I just think it'd be cool to raise awareness of our products. Things like nutricake are perfect for melee faced with kiters, and Dweezle eases a painful skilltree. Lets spread the word!


Blunder - Chimera


N.B. I intend to start this little project from bank holiday monday so get opinions in quick!


Thanks all and stay cooking
Psy1ocke
Sat May 29, 2004 7:35 pm
#2

Nice idea. I'm not fond of being known as just making Brandy and Canape either. We have so many more useful things to offer.


A wonderful chef on my server (Corbantis), named Aikiave, makes a post almost every day with either "Entree of the day", "Drink of the day", "Dessert of the day", etc. She picks an item and lists what it does, it's ranged atributes, and also lists waypoints to different chefs on our server that carry the item. The posts are bright and colorful and well layed out, she does a really nice job. Often times it's starts out a nice lil' conversation between chefs and chefs and customers about their usefulness and things like that. I believe it's been a great way to educate a lot of people on our server as well as bring business to lesser known chefs I'm sure. Three cheers for Aikiave!! =)





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Katana_Blade
Sat May 29, 2004 9:34 pm
#3

Oh please do! I'm a pistoleer on Bria and I have only the slightest clue of foods but I have recently fallen in love with using something called Kiwik Clusjo or something like that. It buffs my Quickness and Stamina. anyways I would love to know more about food cause this has helped me sooo much

Now you can start making me more aware by answering this question for me.
-Are there any foods/drinks that enhance Strength and Constitution. Up until now I have been using Neutron Pixie to just give me health but I would like to buff these stats instead. Thanks!



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ThemeIngredient
Sat May 29, 2004 10:21 pm
#4

Personally, I like putting new foods in 5 crates and 25 crates so that everyone can sample certain foods/drinks that sound interesting


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cplblunder1983
Sun May 30, 2004 2:50 am
#5

Garmorrl is the health secondaries buff but atm it gimps on some stats due to the resouces it requires. Its a drink so tends to be left in 2nd place behind brandy :S


Anyone got any feedback on what i am examining above, sales, usefulness, if they are bugged etc. It would help out.


Perhaps a food a day might be a little more interesting and sustainable.
darksithmage
Sun May 30, 2004 5:56 am
#6

I actually did something similar to this, I made samples of a bunch of the foods you listed and I have them on a display table in my shop, no one really takes notice, they still immediately go for the brandy and canapes unfortunately, but whatever sales I guess, my friends and guild appreciate the variety I offer moreso.



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fatgit
Sun May 30, 2004 8:11 am
#7

I'm another chef that does things in crates of 5 and 25.

I hate doing just brandy & canape - if I did more of them I'd be richer, but money isnt everything. I prefer to make a selection of items, even if some take weeks to sell.
Many of my customers are now asking for Havla, Synthsteak (very big seller), Bivoli, Citros Snowcake etc.

The problem Im having now, is keeping up a supply of additives :/

Making people more aware of what the other foods do is an excellent way to get away from the Brandy profession chef started to turn into.
ScoerFusou
Sun May 30, 2004 10:52 am
#8

Good idea. I've been doingsomething similarever since the revamp. Since I got Master Chef just shortly after the revamp and I hadn't been reading the Chef boards I had no idea what any of the stuff did soi'd make anew food every week and hand it out to my guild to try. The stuff that they liked i made a few crates of and put it on my vendor. I've gotten a few sales on some of the new stuff, mostly through old friends ofguildmates,but right now I usually only do custom orders for anything other then bivoli, canape, or brandy. Maybe I'll start handing out freebies to random people and see how they like the food and see if I get any new customers.



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rgrocott
Mon May 31, 2004 12:08 am
#9






Katana_Blade wrote:

Now you can start making me more aware by answering this question for me.
-Are there any foods/drinks that enhance Strength and Constitution. Up until now I have been using Neutron Pixie to just give me health but I would like to buff these stats instead. Thanks!




Garrmorl (as mentioned above) is essentially Brandy for the Strength Pool, and Accarragm is Brandy for the Action pool.


Won-Won are like Kiwik Swirls, but buff Strength and Constitution. They take a light additive rather than medium, so they will bea lower buff than Kiwik swirls. Idon't have any in stock right now (will restock ina week or so, most likely), but you should be able to find it on several chef vendors - check the Bria trade forum to see what people are advertising. Natibu Soul (Corellia, nr Coronet) and Sinison (Sinister Sam, in the Strongbadia Cantina) are 2 chefs making great stuff right now, so give 'em a try if you're in a hurry


In response to the main topic, I think that, with stomach not emptying on death, there's a large gap in the market for the lower-filling versions of some well-known foods. For instance, Aitha for mind heals (rather than Blue Milk) and Exo-Protein Wafers for damage reduction (rather than Synthsteak). Neither is as effective, but when stomach space is at a premium, they could be life-savers (especially the Aitha).





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Ankor
Mon May 31, 2004 11:42 am
#10

Won Won and Kiwik are both stocked on my vendor (wp in sig), as are Garr and Acca.

As for the original poster's question:
First, you're going to want to avoid saying things like "Ahrisha- it outstrips canapes" Because that isn't really true. It's more useful for some things, and less so for others. There's nothing wrong with trying to promote it as a lower-cost longer-duration alternative (especially if your vendor's stocked and the competition's isn't), but when you say "this is better than Canape" you're doing two things:
1) raising customer expectations that this is exactly the same as Canape only better
2) inviting an argument (as opposed to a conversation)

Try saying something like "In many cases this provides the same benefit as Canape for less money" or something like "a sustainable buff that can push the mind cost on specials, even when fully armored, down to nothing". Explain the benefits of the food (low cost, 45+ duration) and let your customers make their own decisions. I'm doing simultaneous business in 33 fill Canape, 39 fill Canape, and Ahrisa, so clearly different people want different things. Don't discount a section of the market because you disagree with their appetites.



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kelela
Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:14 pm
#11


How funny blunder...I only came upon this post after searching your name out because I noticed your posts on the Chimera-European board!(loved the PVP post by the way, gonna put a link to you post on Corbantis if you don't mind ) I'm sooo glad you started this on your server...see all the great responses you've gotten???? ILOVE how you RP'd it in the beginning...definitely creative! I had posted to the chef board on several of the "templates" for discussions on certain foods for chefs to post to their servers about food since no one really REALLY knows about food. So I started the FOOD 101 posts on Corbantis...originally cuz I was bored...and also that the list of food was soooooo long even I got tired of trying to analyze it all. So I started doing it day by day...and you know what, to my surprise - it was well received by the community and soooo many stepped up to comment on each and every food. I know it's kinda tedious to cover EVERY food - but in doing that, we had uncovered some diamonds in the rough. (& I've learned a lot too!) Every profession and every player for that matter has their own specific needs. Posting to the board is a good way to collectively have people discuss about each food and to educate why a food is good or why it is bad. This way chefs also know what's in demand and what to make.


Keep up the good work blunder...but I have a feeling...it's gonna become a full-time job.


And much thanks to ~Ivy~ for the kind words!


Message Edited by kelela on 06-08-2004 01:18 PM

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