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Thread: Master Crafters.. a question
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KaiRaene
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:10 am
#1
Gentlemen,
The Rangers are trying to build a list of all organic creature resources so as to better serve you while we harvest. I would like opinions and insight into the list I am leaving here and what overal stats to lean towards when making foods.
As an example I used this avian meat below. How would you guys(and gals) rate the stats of meat you buy. What of milk, hide and bones you use for the rare dish? Any and all imput would be greatly appreciated.
Avian meat
DR=971 Semi Important
FL=237 Semi Important
PE=331 Very Important
OQ=953 Very Important
Aitha
Meat
Blue Milk
Milk
Meat
Garrmorl
Scaley Hide
Bone
Jawa Beer
Wooly Hide
Vayerbok(spelling?)
Creature Structural(bone)
Almond-Kweevu Crisp Munchies
Meat
Bantha Butter
Milk
Bivoli
Carnivore meat
Blood Chowder
Meat
Caramelized Pkneb
Meat Bone
Chor-Nor-Hoola
Milk Bone
Crispic
Meat
Deneelian Fizz Pudding
Milk
Bone
Dustcrepe
Herbivore Meat
Exo-Protein Wafers
Meat
Hide
Gruucan Shaal
Reptile Meat
K-18 Rations
Meat
Hide
Kanali Wafers
Hide
Ormachek
Meat
Scrimpi
Herbivore Meat
Synthsteak
Hide
Teltier Noodles
Hide
Terretta
Herbivore meat
Travel Biscuits
Hide
Trimpian
Meat
Vercupti
Insect Meat
Won-Won
Meat
Message Edited by KaiRaene on 09-12-2004 06:19 AM
Message Edited by KaiRaene on 09-13-2004 04:47 PM
M-Oldie
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:49 am
#2
Hi,
I only make a few things that require meat so far, Bivoli and Vercupti. For Bivoli, the PE is the most important, with OQ/DR/FL being second. The filling on that doesn't matter as much to the docs that eat it, just that it hits +25, 3-use, and a decent time, which will always (unless you really use awful stuff) outlast the filling value, so the stomach is empty when it's time for the next one.
For Vercupti, Chefs usually make 2 variations of that, one a double-buff, meaning the fill is experimented to 50. for that, the DR of the insect meat is the most important, with PE/OQ being second. for a non-double buff Vercupti, same as above, with PE first and OQ/DR/FL second.
Because I haven't made any of the rest the only comment I can make in general is PE is usually the most important stat when making foods. We had a recent spawn of Fruit on my server that had 900+ for OQ/FL/DR, but a PE of around 500. I harvested a bunch of it, and can use it only to make a 33-fill canape, so it has a use, but it is no good in just about anything else I use that takes fruit, including brandy.
Hope that helps.
Edit... forgot to mention that for just about anything that takes Hide, it's high OQ, with SR being second.
Message Edited by M-Oldie on 09-12-2004 09:51 AM
Draygox
Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:44 am
#3
The meats will always be something a chef buys. I always have a hard time finding good herb meat to make scrimpi. Bones and hides are rarely used. I , at least, think that anything that uses them to be somewhat gated . The buff depends on PE. Seeing how hides and bone do not have that stat, the items are always going to be somewhat sub-par.
M-Oldie
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:39 pm
#4
Remember, though, if an item doesn't have the stat, it's not counted in the final combine. It's not counted as 0, or 1000, it just doesn't use it at all in the formula. That's why for hide, et. al. the stat to look at is OQ, and SR for synthsteak, as an example (and why Garrmor can't be experimented in the nutrition line, as no resources in the schematic have PE at all).
It is very easy to verify this and it has been done. The easiest one I can think of is that I use 1000oq wood for my Flora in my chef tissues, and even though it doesn't have PE or FL, I can still make +87's that way.
KaiRaene
Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:50 am
#6
Bump! Just want a few more opinions thoughts before I start using it as an approved list. So, the level or importance on the stats is similar to what I used for the example?
Ikooga
Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:48 am
#7
M-Oldie wrote:
Remember, though, if an item doesn't have the stat, it's not counted in the final combine. It's not counted as 0, or 1000, it just doesn't use it at all in the formula. That's why for hide, et. al. the stat to look at is OQ, and SR for synthsteak, as an example (and why Garrmor can't be experimented in the nutrition line, as no resources in the schematic have PE at all).
Its DR last time I checked for Synthsteak.
And Garrmorl can be experimented, but just up to the 33% max that the OQ is responsible for. With 900+ OQ Scaly hide and bones you can hit 330 for 39 minutes. Crap compared to Brandy, I know, but about the best for Garrmorl.
Ikooga
Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:00 am
#8
Ok I'm trying to fill out what i know, have not made all of the foods, i'll delete the ones i don't know anything about.
Thats how i choose the resources for it
Garrmorl
Scaley Hide (900+ OQ, if DR is nice thats good, but not that important)
Bone (Same as the Scaly hide)
Vayerbok(spelling?)
Creature Structural(bone) (Hide is also creature structural I think, but not sure, never done it)
Bantha Butter
Milk (Stats don't matter, just want high quantity stacks)
Bivoli
Carnivore meat (High PE, high OQ, medium to high Flavour, in that order.)
Chor-Nor-Hoola
??? That one too.. I was sleepy when I made the list.. lol
Milk (high PE and OQ)
Bone (OQ, DR is nice)
Gruucan Shaal
Reptile Meat (High PE, High OQ, med-high Flav)
Scrimpi
Herbivore Meat (again like Gruuvan Shaal)
Synthsteak
Hide (OQ again, DR if there,if not... *shrugs*
Message Edited by Ikooga on 09-13-2004 08:03 AM
KillaJohn
Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:24 am
#9
My fellow chefs are correct in that PE is most important. PE is weighted 66% of the nutrition experimentation, and OQ is 33%. So, if the PE is uber, like 950+, but the OQ is ridiculously low, like 50, then it still isnt anything special. We'd still only get around 65% for total nutrition experimentation. However, if both weren't great, but decent, say around 750, we'd get around 75%. Still not very good, but the other resources come into play also, but i always calculate what the combined value of the PE/OQ is of the resources before i decide to buy or harvest it. Just thought i'd try to help, not sure if i was very clear with this explanation, it sounded good in my head 
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