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Thread: CAn you help me? Artisan Food Questions....
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Korlan
Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:57 am
#1
Ok... I was looking at my character the other day and noticed.... I have been a Master Artisan for over a year now and not once have I ever crafted a food item...
Of course that really bothered me as.. how can I be a master if i have not really DONE all that I can do.
So now I'm on a mission... I'm going to give food a try... only problem is... I'm really confused on all the material needed.... I know what the scehmatic calls for... but as to just what... how and where to get a lot of this stuff is lost on me... i have looked around but most giudes are more for advanced foods not much time spent on the Artisan side....... or answer my questions 
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....You have to remember I have done nothing but make bikes - weapons - and armor all this time.... so making food is a bit intimidating ATM..
Are there any tips out there that you guys can offer for making Artisan foods??
Like:
What should i focus on for Artisan Food/drink?
What makes for good Artisan Food/drink?
How should I price the food/drink?
Should I only sell in Crates?
Thanks for any help you can lend
Korlen....
BarakKuzar
Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:09 am
#2
Of all the food/drinks available to you, I would suggest the ones below (no particular order). There are some others that may be fun, but I don't think you'd sell a whole lot of them.
1) Travel Biscuits -- provides Terrain Negotiation bonus. There are a lot of jedi out there who -- until they get force run -- would like to move a little faster while out hunting.
2) Exo Protein Wafer -- provides damage reduction (kind of like synthsteak "lite" if you will). Best thing here is a low filling of 5 usually so it can be taken multiple times and stacks well with other food combinations.
3) Light Food Additive -- you can make it, so make sure you do and add it to your foods above when making them to maximize your product. For actual use in product, these should be 55-57, but in a pinch you could use lower. Anything less than 51 would really not be worth making and using for serious product. Need good meat and flora for this.
Since these are artisan items, you'll get plenty of experimentation points to spend (10 or 11 if human). Even a 12-pt chef only uses their artisan points to make these items, so you can be plenty competitive on this. Someone can (and will) correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that you will need to have a food/chem factory to make factory runs even though they are artisan products, but it's been such a long time that I can't remember.
Regarding experimenting, spend as many points as possible on nutrition first, then flavor second. This will increase the buff size and duration respectively. Given any left over points, I usually try to lower the filling, but I'll experiment on a couple products to see whether I can get an increase in quantity with just a point or two in it, then dump the rest into lowering filling. If the quantity can't be easily increased, then all excess points go into filling.
I'd suggest making crates, but definitely sell singles as well on the bazaar and your personal vendor(s).
Regarding pricing, the travel biscuits need hide, exo-protein needs meat, and the additive needs meat, so you need to factor your materials cost (meats not cheap), the factory time for the additives & products, and your personal time to come up with a price that makes sense to you. Word of advice, don't price things just on the materials. These are products that people can use and should be priced on what they will pay. Don't gouge people, but don't undersell your product either. Check your local chefs for what they are selling things for and take it from there.
Have fun, but be careful...chef can be an addictive profession.
Regards,
Dular
Raver112
Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:14 am
#4
BarakKuzar wrote:
Of all the food/drinks available to you, I would suggest the ones below (no particular order). There are some others that may be fun, but I don't think you'd sell a whole lot of them.
1) Travel Biscuits -- provides Terrain Negotiation bonus. There are a lot of jedi out there who -- until they get force run -- would like to move a little faster while out hunting.
2) Exo Protein Wafer -- provides damage reduction (kind of like synthsteak "lite" if you will). Best thing here is a low filling of 5 usually so it can be taken multiple times and stacks well with other food combinations.
3) Light Food Additive -- you can make it, so make sure you do and add it to your foods above when making them to maximize your product. For actual use in product, these should be 55-57, but in a pinch you could use lower. Anything less than 51 would really not be worth making and using for serious product. Need good meat and flora for this.
Since these are artisan items, you'll get plenty of experimentation points to spend (10 or 11 if human). Even a 12-pt chef only uses their artisan points to make these items, so you can be plenty competitive on this. Someone can (and will) correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that you will need to have a food/chem factory to make factory runs even though they are artisan products, but it's been such a long time that I can't remember.
Regarding experimenting, spend as many points as possible on nutrition first, then flavor second. This will increase the buff size and duration respectively. Given any left over points, I usually try to lower the filling, but I'll experiment on a couple products to see whether I can get an increase in quantity with just a point or two in it, then dump the rest into lowering filling. If the quantity can't be easily increased, then all excess points go into filling.
I'd suggest making crates, but definitely sell singles as well on the bazaar and your personal vendor(s).
Regarding pricing, the travel biscuits need hide, exo-protein needs meat, and the additive needs meat, so you need to factor your materials cost (meats not cheap), the factory time for the additives & products, and your personal time to come up with a price that makes sense to you. Word of advice, don't price things just on the materials. These are products that people can use and should be priced on what they will pay. Don't gouge people, but don't undersell your product either. Check your local chefs for what they are selling things for and take it from there.
Have fun, but be careful...chef can be an addictive profession.
Regards,
Dular
I've been chef for a month now and started a pretty succesfull buseniss, but I never really looked at the artisan foods, you actually made em sound interesting
I'm gonna experiment with these things tonight 
OditeFosore
Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:58 am
#5
I stock and sell a fair amount of artisan foods:
- aitha: "light" mind healing version of blue milk
- exo-protein wafers: "light" damage reduction version of synthsteak
- crispic: "light" accuracy bonus version of citros snow cake
- jawa beer: mask scent food used by bio engineers and hunters when milking
- travel biscuits: terrain negotiation food used mainly by PVP'ers
As far as pricing goes, the cost to make them is fairly low. I personally wouldprice off competitors on these foods.I don't really know of other chefs on my server that stock them, but they're my lowest priced foods and I charge 75k/crate. I recommend breaking at least 1 crate up per run into 5-10 singles, 5 stacks and 10 stacks. This gives folks that want to try a new food out a way to get some without having to buy a full crate and helps new folks get the small amounts they desire/can afford.
Korlan
Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:23 am
#6
thanks for the info
OditeFosore wrote:
I stock and sell a fair amount of artisan foods:
- aitha: "light" mind healing version of blue milk
- exo-protein wafers: "light" damage reduction version of synthsteak
- crispic: "light" accuracy bonus version of citros snow cake
- jawa beer: mask scent food used by bio engineers and hunters when milking
- travel biscuits: terrain negotiation food used mainly by PVP'ers
As far as pricing goes, the cost to make them is fairly low. I personally wouldprice off competitors on these foods.I don't really know of other chefs on my server that stock them, but they're my lowest priced foods and I charge 75k/crate. I recommend breaking at least 1 crate up per run into 5-10 singles, 5 stacks and 10 stacks. This gives folks that want to try a new food out a way to get some without having to buy a full crate and helps new folks get the small amounts they desire/can afford.
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