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Thread: is there a site or tool that lists the amt of resources needed for a factory run?

-Devil-
Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:07 pm
#1

i have looked through the faq and downloaded several spreadsheets .. but havent found what i am looking for ... just curious if there is such a thing out there ...


i have chef .. but doing it mostly for support for the pvp group in my guild .. since they are providing the resources and credits for doing it ... but trying to figure out how much of resources for a run to make sure i gather up enough of the right thing has proved tricky lol .. guess i need to find my calculator



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I_Zombi
Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:40 pm
#2

It's just 1000 times the # of resources needed from the schematic (assuming you don't need 2 identical components).Please don't need your calculator for that



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Hampster2
Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:41 pm
#3

its fairly straight forward really. The biggest run we can currently make is 1000 stacks or 40 crates of 25... so look at the schematic you want to make - it tells you what you need to make one stack - now multiply this times 1000 (or whatever quantity you need to run) and you know what you need for the factory. add a bit of course to allow for experimentation, etc.


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-Devil-
Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:10 pm
#4

i guess i need to see how many of the sub components are in a crate as well so i can figure that in to see if it limits the max of a final scematic run ... (are there any of the chef items that can 'overfill' a factory?)


this is my first time trying an artisian skill like chef .. i am accustomed to tailor .. where everything is hand made .. and little factory runs involved (other then sub components)





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MaliaMing
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:27 am
#5

There are 25 subcomponents that come in a crate (just as with foods). Things like brandy and canape will take several identical units of a given subcomponent, so despite being able to technically make a run of 1000, you'll only be able to make half that amount. The most you'll be able to make is 499 if you get a perfect schematic on the first try.



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Wengel
Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:11 am
#6

i think the tool is called: A Calculator



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-Devil-
Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:36 am
#7

hahahah Doh! .. wengel =) ... there is one for BE .. an excel spreadsheet that you enter your resources into .. and it gives you the max it should be if the experimentation goes right, then how much of each you need for what ever size factory run is done ... that is what i was looking for ...


i still have a few more weeks of gathering up decent resources then i can do a run of something .. maybe then it will make more sense to me by actually doing it.



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MaliaMing
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:06 pm
#8

Chef can be really overwhelming when you first start. I spent about a week just staring at my schematics, having *no* clue what was good for what, and what went where. After biting the bullet and throwing a batch of something in a factory, it all started to make sense. I finally figured out what everybody meant by factories making full runs of 1000 (I'd never touched a factory prior to chef), and what the deal with all the additives were (totally daunting when you first see the list of BE tissues available to use).

You'll get it. Run out and buy a batch of cheapie nutrients and play around. Everything starts to fall into place after that.



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KappaStang
Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:56 pm
#9

For the final product:

If the item takes only one of the same subcompnent (for example air cake), then you multiply by 1000.

If the item takes two of the same subcompnent (for example vasarian brandy), then you multiply by 500.

If the item takes three of the same subcompnent (for example bespin port), then you multiply by 333.

And so on and so forth.


Let's do a run down of Bio-engineered vasarian brandy. We are also assumingyou are not aBE and must purchase the nutrient.

We will need 2 alcohols per brandy. So, 2 of the same subcomponents means we will be able to make at most 499 vasarian brandies (I just use 500 because it makes calculations so much easier):


10 cereal per alcohol, and we are making the max amount of alcohol for the schematic so that is 10,000 units of cereal.


150 crystalline gemstone + 2 trim for containers, and we need a full run of 500 for the caskets so that is75,000 units of crystalline gemstone.


15 water plus a medium BE tissue, and we need 500 (20 crates) so 7,500 water.


20 berries x 500 = 10,000 berries

20 fruits x 500 = 10,000 fruits


So run of brandy takes (assuming you are not a BE or tailor for the casket trim):

10,000 berries

10,000 fruits

7,500 water

75,000 crystalline gemstone

10,000 cereal


If you are a BE (making broad spectrum nutrient) and a tailor, then a run of brandy takes:

10,000 berries

10,000 fruits

7,500 water

75,000 crystalline gemstone

10,000 cereal

17,500 organic

12,500 floral food

10,000 creature food

20,000 fiberplast

5,000 inert petrochemical


The secret to chef in my opinion (aside from getting good resources and a solid BE) is organization. Do not look at a run of brandy as all those number up there. Instead take it apart. First worry about your components. I first worry about getting the BE tissue and the trim. Once I have that, I no longer have to worry about another profession. Now, I go on to make the additive, the alcohol, and the caskets. Once that is done, then go on to make the brandy. It sounds stupid and redundant, but if you do things in pieces, it no longer feels so overwhelming.


Also, use excel or write things down. This will allow you to do alot more with your time. Plan out your menu and then just take it apart. It will not seem so bad. And like they said above, a calculator is your friend.







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