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Thread: questions from a newbie master

Liza2830
Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:38 am
#1

I have read lots of the boards and found some dated answers and some new ones but can't figure out what's recent. Ok if you have components that have no end stats like alcohol does it matter about the qualities of the resources? Also I see over and over on food that I need biological components . I am assuming these are made by a bio-engineer . Is this correct? Also I'm making fishak. I see some that are much better than mine with me using some of the best resources I can find which qualities are doing this and which part of the experiments do I need to concentrate on.. sounds so easy but geesh its NOT! NO im not a holocron chef lol I wanted to be a chef for long time just that slow grind and all those resources stopped me for long time. Is there is a another message that answers these questions that still apply could someone please point me to it please. Also if biological components are made by a bio-engineer anyone know a good one on chilastra? If so send a tell to elizma on chilastra hehe thanks!
Liza2830
Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:46 am
#2

ok just noticed the one about fishak so that does help my quality of my fruit is great the flavor bites...what would one consider the best fruit if you couldnt get all qualities 900+ i know what a dream! which qualities would u consider the most important?
Elmmx-5
Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:54 am
#3

As a geraral rule of thumb, experiment on any subconponent for your foods in the chef treeand forget about the artisan ones. Aluduim pu36 has a significant effect on your final fishak, where as starshines have no effect at all in sunburns. For instance, my last Fishak run usedaludium experimented to 19/60/51 and using only *ok* final components resulted in +519 mind 759s 10 uses per. When making the fishak I tried to get at least 42% into quantity to get 10 uses then sank the rest into nutritional value.


BE components are not needed for any food. They only make it better. Bio Engineers make additives which I can incorperate into certain recipes to enhance their effect. I've been experimenting with these, and they are great... but the end, the result of it more than doubles the resources I need to make a food when it is enhanced, and on top of that, most of the BE components are meats and fish so the the price for the customer is incredible.




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Akiko' Saito
+25 Master Chef (14pt artisan, force experimentation)
Shop at -6009 -447 Corell Peaks, Corellia


Elmmx-5
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:01 pm
#4

Oh and as far as which value is the best for your resources, it tells you right in the schematic. The fruits and reactive gas in fishak are 33% Fl 33% Oq and 33% Pe. Just add all those values up and the highest total wins (with other weightings for other foodsI use a formula). So if you have a fruit that is 600 Fl 600 Oq 600 Pe, it will be better than one you would have at 1000 Fl 300 Oq 300 Pe.



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Akiko' Saito
+25 Master Chef (14pt artisan, force experimentation)
Shop at -6009 -447 Corell Peaks, Corellia


sciguyCO
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:14 pm
#5

Greetings from another Chili chef.


Ok, components do have stats, they just don't get displayed. Using good resources and experimentation on things like Aludian, protato, etc have a noticeable effect on final items. However, the lower-level the component, the smaller the effect, so a near-perfect carbosyrup gives about +20 to the final buff compared to a carbo made from crap. The components' stats used to be displayed, I swear upon my stack of 997PE/980OQ fruits...


The best bang-for-your-buck seems to be to focus on quantity on components (at least when its available) and Nutrition (buff size) on the final item and components that do not have the Quantity category.


What kind of stats are you getting with your angerian? A good goal to aim for is +500 mind (which generally takes the action negative to -30 or so) and a stack of 10. You'll want to use high OQ/PE resources in your aludian and carbosyrup, and the same for the final combine. Flavor also has a bit of an impact on buff size, about 22%. Using quantity-experimented aludian, I can get the Nutrition into the 70%s, then spendthree or four points in quantity for 12-14 dose stack.


Some things that help experimentation are: tools and crafting stations with higher effectiveness. Tools max out at +15, stations at +45. The higher the number, the more likely you are to get great (or even amazing) successes. You get a similar improvement when standing in a player city with a "research" specialization. Also, some of the really high-end buffs being reported are being made by chefs with +10 or +20 worth of Food Experimentation tapes. For every 10 you increase F.E. (up to a max of 25), you get an additional experimentation point


Biological components are tissues made by bioengineers. These can only be included in food components (soypro, protato, puk, etc), not any of the base alcohols. The most common tissues are Micronutrient supplements which add 3-30% to the final food's duration, depending on the resources used for the tissue and the experimentation of the BE. There are also "broad spectrum supplements" which have an even higher duration bonus, but that tissue requires seafood (basically fish meat), so it's harder to come by. Other tissues add to one class of stats while subtracting from another. These have to be planned pretty carefully, since only final foods that have effects those stats gets the bonuses and negatives from the tissue. So a Bivoli (+mind) made with a protato using a +Health/-Action tissue won't have any difference.


I covered a few of these points in the FAQ stickied at the top of the forum, let me know if any of the sections could use some clarification.






Kriles Ch'artoff , Chilastra server
Master Chef (retired)
Currently doing....stuff
Killtacular
Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:30 pm
#6

I've noticed a difference of up to 20 points in the actual stat of Fishak based on the resources and experimentation of the carbosyrups used.


Though, fruit is the most important for Fishak quality.


Point is, some artisan subs defnitely have an impact on the final product. But some are like Starshine, which has no effect whatsoever.


Cyene


Liza2830
Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:43 am
#7

ok I think maybe its what i experimented with then maybe hehe im so happy i said i was new and that i didnt bother to say i was intelligent either! my fishak is -53 mind +508 mind 820s I can't see any stats on the aludiunum but I uses berries flavor 898 energy 638 qq 930 metal 999q and wheat flavor 405 energy 988 quality 908 and i used same wheat for carbo syrup as i seem to have lots of this wheat!
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