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Thread: bivoli not working with pub 7?

mookee
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:45 am
#1

ive noticed bivoli makes little to no difference, and smugglers delight doesnt work at all



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IdleThought
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:46 am
#2

As far as I know, as expected with the changes to Doc Buffs, it works but is of limited use.

I got reports buffs of about (from memory) 2030-2300, with an about extra 200 with +11 bivoli from one Doc. Considering the costs involved with making Bivoli and the relatively limited benefits it's probably not cost-effective to a Doc to buy it any more - at least not unless a smuggler-style credits per buff point pricing evolves, then maybe if they're in it for the money it might be worth it, or maybe buffing for PvP. But it's going to require a little education- yes it works but the benefits are limited.



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Zhor
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:59 am
#3

BE enhanced Bivoli (+25.272 for 16m40s) has been giving docs 200-450 extra on buffs. This is the fastest selling item I have ever made. It is frekkin awesome for docs far as they are concerned (at least had 15 send /tells to me saying it rules)




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fatgit
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:09 am
#4

Assuming a 900 enh D pack, the difference between using Bivoli, and not using it is ~200

The formula is reported to be (seems to be correct) :
(enhancement_pack_rating + ((wound_treatment / 100) * enhancement_pack_rating)) * (medical_rating / 100)

So with a Master Doc, and +25 clothing and a 110 med droid :
(900 +((125/100)*900) * (110/100)
900 + 1125 * 1.1 = 2275.5

A Master Doc, +24.5 Bivoli, +25 clothing and a 110 med droid :

(900 +((150/100)*900) * (110/100)
900 + 1350 * 1.1 = 2475

This is assuming my math is right after 3 hours sleep
When you are wearing high encumberance armour, 200 on the secondaries can make a larger difference than some people imagine.
BristaAB
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:19 am
#5

Another point is that this is a very crucial time for Docs with regard to their reputations


If a Doc buffed you for 1200 - 1500 before it could be a great Doc and unlucky rolls. Now it can't. If a Doc buffs for under 2k they are definitely second rate


So a Doc buffing for 1900 gets saved from embarassment if he uses Bivoli and a Doc buffing for 2.5k gets regarded as freaking awesome if he stacks Bivoli on top





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KMad
Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:22 am
#6

bivoli does still work. my chef char made some that's +10.9 i think, and my doc char buffeda friendtoday without it (to help him out and to see the non-random buffs), and then herself later with it. i don't have the best buffpacks around, since i only buff myself and my husband lol, but even at that, saw about 100 point difference with the bivoli.


now, whether it's worth doctors buying it is a different question. but for me, using the resources i already have, yeah it's worth making and eating.





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fatgit
Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:53 am
#7

I charge about 3500 per stack of BE enhanced Bivoli, so 1750per use.

At 15min duration, a Master Doc can buff once per 15 seconds, so up to 60 buffs per bivoli, thats under 30cr per buff extra
Zhor
Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:05 am
#8

Nice pricing scheme, fit's in with mine I charge $160K for (25 X 2) at 25.272 and 25.92 +wound treatment for around 15-17 mins




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Bashin
Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:14 am
#9

Yep I go 160k for 24 wound treatment 17:30 duration.


I am the only one on my server I know that has it on vendor at all times...that is NOT because I am too high...its the perfect price for me... I sell 3-10 cases a day.


When I had it at 120k to 140k I had one doc come in and buy 10 cases at a time.





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Jihadic
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:17 am
#10

I have probably the worst pricing scheme ever, but I charge 100K per crate of BE food and small glassed drink and 200K per crate of BE casked drink. No real reason other than it's very easy to deal with 1000 crates of it and when I have partials my customers know from the price how many are in it . I keep my Bivoli stocked although I do get pretty low sometimes. It's a guaranteed seller though, unlike Karkan Ribenes. Not unhappy that I stocked them, just unhappy I did a full run of them



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rgrocott
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:00 am
#11






Zhor wrote:
25.272 and 25.92 +wound treatment for around 15-17 mins





Could I persuade you to post the stats on the ingredients you're using? I'm using pretty much the best vegetables ever seen on Bria, and some pretty fine meat too, and I'm only up to +24.61 for 14m12s. Mind you, I only have the 10pts for experimentation, and I know I didn't max out on nutrition after experimenting up to 3 uses per stack. Nonetheless, I'm sure I wouldn't be hitting those numbers anyway!


Oh, for the record, I'm charging 375k for a crate (3 uses, +24.61, 14m12s, Fill 27) and it's flying out the door. I haven't had a single enquiry that wasn't followed by a purchase. I have no idea how Bria's economy compares, though - I know top-notch brandy is going for over 400ka crate, too.



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Ka-jun
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:45 pm
#12

I've had 2 different docs tell me tonightthat bivoli is not working for them anymore... can anyone verify this? if so last 2 weeks i been dumping alot of time and credits into something that dont work anymore lol



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