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decadoh

Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:59 am

I had a few questions about Vasarian is made

Essentially i will be going chef in a few weeks and while iwas going uo the tree i was wondering if i might be able to sell Casks since i also have Noive tailor

So i Figure

1) 1000 Schem of Trim

2) 500 Schem of Casks ( since u need 2 trim)

3) Factory run for BE additives if you have schem -1000

4) Combine with water -1000

5) Final combine gives 500 brandys or 20 crates becuase you only have 500 identical casks? Ive heard ppl talk about a full run of 40 - Is this with 2 schems or do casks not have serial numbers?

Is this right

I figure casks may not sell well since youd need to transport 20 -40 crates of 25 to the facotry hopper. Do all chefs make their own?

Any comments welcomed

Dec.

MovieMania007

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:06 am

#2

Here is another way to look at it, hope this helps.

To make 20 Crates of Bio-Enhanced Vasarian Brandy (Best Selling Food in the Market)

(Each crate has a count of 25)

TO MAKE CASKS
To make Trim: Yields 40 Crates
20k units of Fiberplast (does not need to be quality materials)
5k units of Polymer (does not need to be quality materials)

To make Cask Containers: Yields 20 Crates
40 crates of Trim (only casks require trim casks)
75k of Crystalized Gemstone (does not need to be quality materials)

TO MAKE FOOD ADDITIVES
To Make BE Broad Spectrum Neutrients Tissue: Yields 20 Crates
17.5k units of organic (wood) (Quality materials greatly matters)
12.5k of flora food (Quality materials greatly matters)
10k of creature food (meat) (Quality materials greatly matters)

To make Medium Food Additives: Yields 20 Crates
20 crates of BE Broad Spectrum Neutrients Tissue
7k units of Water (Quality materials matters)

TO MAKE ALCOHOL
To make Alcohol: Yields 40 Crates
10k unites of cereal (does not need to be quality materials)

TO MAKE BE VASARIAN BRANDY
To make BE Vasarian Brandy: Yields 20 crates
20 Crates of Casks
20 Crates of Medium Food Additives
40 Crates of Alcohol
10k units of Fruit (Quality materials greatly matters)
10k units of Berries(Quality materials greatly matters)

All crated items needto have the same serial number in order for it to work.

As you can see a lot of work goes into just to make 20 Crates of BE Vasarian Brandy. Exclude the Food Additives and the need for Trim for Casks and make large or small glasses and you job is easier. But the market and buyers seek the larger number of uses that casks offer.

The work load is even greatly increased if you harvest all of your own materials. Many chefs purchase the Tissue, and Trim and harvest the rest. A typical crate of tissue is 50k per crate and Trim is 2k per crate.

I hope all of this helps.

Ikoo

simply ikoo

Ophistes

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:19 am

#3

Casks have no serial numbers but alcohol does AFAIK. 500 has thus been the maximum for me so far.

Ophistes Ceimined= Chef and Musician =
= The singing frog =
"I suppose you're entitled to your own delusions." --Threepio

MovieMania007

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:25 am

#4

I stand correct...he is correct

So many crates, so little time for a memory

simply ikoo

decadoh

Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:19 am

#5

Thanks for this guys - it is very helpful

So as a seasoned chef would you ever consider buying in crates of casksperhaps sold in backpacks with 20 crates in say. What would be a reasonable pirce for this - 1k a cask? I figure this would save 2 factory runs since you wouldnt need to make trim or the casks.

I would think that if you were buying trim you may as well buy casks - especially if they have no serial #s?

This may help an aspiring chef get a foot in the door while learning the ropes...

Dec

DialUp

Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:33 am

#6

MovieMania007 wrote:

To make Medium Food Additives: Yields 20 Crates
20 crates of BE Broad Spectrum Neutrients Tissue
7k units of Water (Quality materials matters)

Quaility of water makes no difference as far as I can tell

MovieMania007

Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:36 am

#7

Chances are you won't find any crates of casks on the market unless you work a deal with a chef. Only Chef's can make casks, and if they are at that level, they are more than likely making casks for themselves. And you won't find em for only 1k if they are buying crates of trim at 2k a crate. Which is 4k for 1 crate of casks. So your loolking at 5k minimal and up. And that is cheap.

To be honest, your better off digging up all the crystalized gem and buying the trim. Much easier than you think.

Good Luck

simply ikoo

MovieMania007

Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:39 am

#8

Mira, I have noticed that as well. For some reason I seem to remember it did. But then again, I never seen a BE Tissue value of 85 go down when I use crappy water. Maybe it was a bug, or maybe iut is supposed to be that way

I'll take the later but it makes sense to have quality water when we are talking about something important like an additive. (did i just say that outloud?) :dev defensive shield deployed:

Ikoo

simply ikoo

decadoh

Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:26 am

#9

So the going rate for trim is 2k per crate - which is what 3.25cpu?

Pricing the gemstones at the same rate implies a market rate of 16.5k per crate of casks. My question is whether any chefs are willing to buy in crates or do they all prefer to harvest it themselves and use up the extra factory time. I guess this would reduce the overall rate to around 6k? Do any chefs buy in casks/in order tosave lots/factory time?

My question is - can a novice chef/tailor make a living by selling caskswhile stockpiling resources etc for when they hit master?

I guess I kind of figured that in any market theres a niche - if you can't makethebest foods on the server can u make a living selling componenets to those who can?

Dec

MuttonJedi

Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:13 pm

#10

I don't know what the going rates are, but I tend to think 5cpu is a fair price for components like trim and casks, so yeah 1k per cask. It seems high enough that I would consider selling them if I was just starting chef, but low enough that I would consider buying them as a master chef to save factory time/lots for other things.

Mutton

Numen

Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:41 pm

#11

On Tempest I usually pay 2500-3500/crate for trim. The 300k or so cost of the trim is not much when you consider how small a component trim is to the final product. The other option is just to waste the 11 skill points and make it yourself. I believe you only need formal wear 1 to make trim. That would also require a clothing factory as well.

I don't think I would ever buy crates of casks. 1 more factory run on top of the 6 I already do isn't that bad.

Amandil Morier - Tempest - Master Chef

DialUp

Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:36 am

#12

Numen wrote:

I believe you only need formal wear 1 to make trim. That would also require a clothing factory as well.

Correct. Thats what I did

I am MBE/MChef and just enough Tailor to be self sufficient

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