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Thread: Overpriced i say No!

Nyivvia
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:20 am
#1

I usually carry a couple crates of the top sellers on me most of the time for when i am traveling.... I get a tell asking for a vendor location.

Then a follow up tell saying how much in which i indicate price. Response is no thanks. no biggie. Only to find out the same person just cleaned out my vendor for the price that was just quoted. lol

But seriously i overcharge for most of my goods for the simple fact that it is a long process to make most of the high end chef products in which case some can only be made in counts of 20-25 crates respectively ( due to hopper input size ) and to sell them for minimal profit just seems stupid to me.

I have to run 2 factories for almost 2 days just to make one batch of fishak. Unfortunately i dont have the luxury of additional lots. Please lemme know if these prices seem really high to you or justified.

Fishak 80 - 100k depending on quality and indiv. stack size

Sunburn 65- 80k " "

Breath of Heaven 75- 100k " "

Just wanted to see if these were reasonable , if you are a master chef on corbantis pls chime in . Thanks in advance



Nyivvia Arden
Former Mayor of Sublime, Current Record Holder in Sublime for Slammin Beers


Proud member of the #33 proffession CLuB and Carbineer sucked the worst lol
DashZero
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:31 am
#2

my fishak is running 82500 and Ive been debating on raising it. I got cussed at yesterday because my vendor was sold out of it...and Id just stocked it with 10+ crates.


my BoH is 90k/crate


My sunburns are usually 37500 per crate. The only reason they are so low really is left over from back when everyone made them and they were "the" drink. Competition got rather fierce regarding them and a 250/chg when crated standard became prevalent on my server. However, I know there are other chefs that charge much more than me on burns. I just didnt feel good about raising the price from what was standard. In addition theres always some yokel selling sunburns for cost thinking they are making money because they forgot to acct for factory maint/power/time. Burns being so low on the tree makes a much more competitive market for them.




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DashZero
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:39 am
#3

oh and in addition to that...you should price your stuff where you feel comfortable with it. If you dont think you are overpriced and your sales have a comfortable level, then dont worry what someone says. Ive a really nice guy that doesnt understand food on my server...he cant understand why people pay for it. Every time I talk to him i want to throttle him as he makes it sound Im gouging people...but the simple fact of the matter is, he doesnt rely on food and therefore has no basis for understanding. He sees it as something for RP mostly and therefore it costs *way* too much. So, people have a lot of opinions based on *their* experience. But you are the one making it and likely the only one that knows that crate of BoH took 10 hours to make. Your opinion, your cost and your sales are the only things you really should worry about regarding your prices.



Nikkii Nightstrider - Eat, Drink and Be Merry!
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Vishna
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:42 am
#4

Not overpriced at all really (course depends on the server) but i do fine selling:


BOH crates at 200k (+547 15 charges per stack)


Fishak is usually around 70-85K depending on stack size usually (+545 9-10 charges per stack)


as with Nikii i still charge 35k per crate of sunburns (dont sell as well as they used to ) mine are usually +1824 in 8 or 9 charge stacks.


all in all you seem about right. You might have trouble competing with the older chefs on the server with the sunburns is all.




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Nyivvia
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:42 am
#5

Thanks for your reply Nikkii that is my exact point. spend all day or 2 days for that matter making some good quality crates only to be sold out in less than an hour and have made minimally more than what you spent on getting the resources. If i really wasnt concerned on what my products were or the quality of them i would just get the closest resources to my factories and pump out garbage lol But i do take great lengths to make quality products and i will charge accordingly

For anyone that wants cheap products lemme know lol



Nyivvia Arden
Former Mayor of Sublime, Current Record Holder in Sublime for Slammin Beers


Proud member of the #33 proffession CLuB and Carbineer sucked the worst lol
DarthBeans
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:45 am
#6

It's only overpriced if nobody buys it. It's a consumer driven profession. I personally like to price things so that they don't sell out in a few seconds as it's annoying having to spend all my time crafting rather than going on PA outings, but I hate not having anything for sale when I know I can make something people will buy.
Naturner
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:55 am
#7

I put up 57 crates of fishak at 80k a pop, it took about 6 hours to sell it out.


26 crates of BoH at 120k a pop, about 8 hours.


Your prices seem fine to me, but it depends on your server economics.




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GalinHawk
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:09 pm
#8






Naturner wrote:

I put up 57 crates of fishak at 80k a pop, it took about 6 hours to sell it out.


26 crates of BoH at 120k a pop, about 8 hours.


Your prices seem fine to me, but it depends on your server economics.






Holy crap! sold out that fast? I've had about 20 crates of Tat Sunburn on my vendor for 4 weeks at about200cr per use (5 uses = 27,500) and can't move a single one. The vendor is under the "food" section of the planatary map. There isn't a single other food vendor on the planet. I don't know how low I'll have to drop the price to move them... From what I have heard, most people say they get doctor buffs from the many master doctors that are in my town (on Naboo) and don't need the extra food buffs...


Sure hope things change when I hit master.... What planet are you selling on?




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Stasy
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:25 pm
#9

I've noted that mind buffing foods are the biggest sellers. That and stuff that enhances secondaries.



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Syke
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:48 pm
#10

Nothing is ever truly overpriced if the market will bear it.


I sell BoH for 60-75k and 90k (60-75k uses alcohol, 90k uses aludiams and I am probably too cheap on the aludiam version which usually results in 550+ buff 15+ uses).


My fishak runs 50-60k a crate...usually 550ish 8-10 uses. I have considered raising the price, but I seem at a nice comfortable medium right now given the two other master level, and one near master level chef vendors all within 500m of my Coronetshop.


I have sunburns, but they never sold well for me and I sell them 25-35k a crate. I offer them solely for the diversity on my vendor. I may quit making them since I have a more proftable and useful purpose for reactive gas.





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GarfBiocap
Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:10 pm
#11

I am basing my prices per resource unit it takes to make a product, not per charge. And my crates are cheap!


I price it at the total number of resources, time 8 credits per unit (will jump to 10 credits per unit for certain Master Level foods). I just made Master Chef, so my fishak production run were limited to 3 crates based on componentson hand!


I run two factories, and harvest most of my own materials and power. Sunburns - 20k a crate. The priciest is the Double Dip Outer Rim Rum Drop, 48k. I have not priced BOH yet, but it should be up there too.


Like another reply on this thread, I have had non-master sunburns on a vendor for a few weeks, selling maybe 10 cases a week. Of course, I live off the beaten path, in a city without a shuttleport. Most of my sales are to PA members. Recent addition of a Merchant Tent and planetary map listing, sales seem to be increasing. I am also moving to a new planet with my guild, into a town with an established Master Chef and shuttleport. She has the same experience in sales as me, with an even lower cpu than my 8!


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DashZero
Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:33 pm
#12

All I can say is why?...you make less money that resource miners and you certainly work harder and have a heck of a lot more skill points tied up to be able to do it. I truely dont understand the reasoning behind that. Im not all about profit, but if someone can make 5-10cpu for putting money in a harv once a week...dont you think you should at least make that much since you are likely doing that plus babysitting factories and vendors?



Nikkii Nightstrider - Eat, Drink and Be Merry!
Eat at Nikkii's - Fine Foods and Fashions
Nabubu (-1400, -4030)
Coronet (524,-5244)
Naturner
Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:15 pm
#13






GalinHawk wrote:





Naturner wrote:

I put up 57 crates of fishak at 80k a pop, it took about 6 hours to sell it out.


26 crates of BoH at 120k a pop, about 8 hours.


Your prices seem fine to me, but it depends on your server economics.






Holy crap! sold out that fast? I've had about 20 crates of Tat Sunburn on my vendor for 4 weeks at about200cr per use (5 uses = 27,500) and can't move a single one. The vendor is under the "food" section of the planatary map. There isn't a single other food vendor on the planet. I don't know how low I'll have to drop the price to move them... From what I have heard, most people say they get doctor buffs from the many master doctors that are in my town (on Naboo) and don't need the extra food buffs...


Sure hope things change when I hit master.... What planet are you selling on?




I run an operation on all three inner planets, and try to stock all the vendors evenly. As a caveat to my sales numbers, I only stock once a week, and have been established on the server for a very long time. I keep an organized business with sales metrics and customer tracking, and while I try not to differentiate my customers too much, a lot of them know when I'm going to restock, and are waiting for me at my stores. 20-30% of those sales numbers are small groups of 3-4 players camping my stores and pulling them off the vendor the minute I stock them.


Don't fret too much, there are a lot of things you can do to advertise, and you might want to make more "mind" food to draw in more customers. My sunburns aren't the end all product they used to be, they are 4-5 in my sales list behind mind/focus/will foods.


Hope this helps.




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Buying 1k lots of general Carnivore, Insect, and Domesticated Meat, PM me for details!
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