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Thread: NERF CHEF!!

InfiniteChimp
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:15 pm
#1

I bet you someone's going to say this sometime in the future.

If not, it's only because a person didn't get his head handed to him by a cook in pvp.

BTW, IMO, PVP sucks. Hooray for acronyms!





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sciguyCO
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:45 pm
#2

I can foresee a couple classes arguments coming in:


Argument 1: Food gives 4x resources for xp. I think only spice crafting xp is as high.

Answer: do the math on the number of combines that are still required. Especially since it looks like components are more common in the new schematics.


Argument 2: Food buffs outperform spices without the drawbacks

Answer: But spices stack with food (wasn't the reverse acommon comment from smugglerswhen food wasn't so good?). Plus chefs are a buff-only class, no slicing orsmuggling (which will start coming into play with the imperial crackdown). Plus, to get to Muon level, you're going to have to stack multiple doses, or use at least light nutrition additives.


Argument 3: OMG, d00d, this l33t PvPer totally pwned me after downing one drink, food is too powerful!

Answer: Chefs sell freely to all. Too expensive, you say?Ah, the price ofub3rness...


Argument 4 (not a nerf call, but it seems to have started): I always ate food X or Y, you don't have itanymore, so you must suck.

Answer: May I direct your attention to this lovely menu? And perhaps talk to **cough** gentleman #3...





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PSKstang
Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:01 pm
#3

Yes I like argument 3, but I think it will probably be:


L33t Dude: You're food sucks, I want angry fishnak back, Im not buying anything.

*L33t dude gets killed byIntelligent Personwith flameout and vanarian brandy*

L33t Dude: Can I have some vanarian brandy and flameout please...

Chef: Sure going rate for idiots is 2x the price.





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Ciirybeccaskyr
Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:12 pm
#4






InfiniteChimp wrote:

I bet you someone's going to say this sometime in the future.

If not, it's only because a person didn't get his head handed to him by a cook in pvp.

BTW, IMO, PVP sucks. Hooray for acronyms!







There already is at least one guy on the Wanderhome fourms that argues for Chef Nerfs.


In responce to the second poster i dont feel that food is better than spice in either its currant form or the new stuff it just is for a differant thing. Spice is far superior for when you see that your pool X is running low in PVP jsut dpwn the appropriat spice for a instant buff that bypasses the combat Q unlike foods that you must clear out your predesignated actions to use it often costing you the fight cause 2 seconds are wasted eating and useing autoshot which is useless cause of the minisule damage and the lack of status effects.


What i use food for now and will most likly continue to use it for is per-fight prep to reduce ham costs so i can actualy use specials with a carbine/rifle/2hSword/Pike


Thats why that supper nice looking Blue milk will not be as effective as I had first hoped when i looked at it




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Ankor
Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:23 pm
#5

sciguy, it looks like levelling a chef now takes the exact same number of clicks, but half as many resources. Chef just became the cheapest crafting class there is to level.

Soypro at novice gives more xp than wastril bread did (using less resources). At Deserts I you get Paste bread, which almost exactly mirrors the old Ithorian Mist grind (substitiute oats for corn) and uses half as many resources. It doesn't matter if most of the new recipes require subcombines (and most do), since you only need one good recipe to grind all the way to master.

Personally, I think the clicks currently necessary to master are excessive, but the resource requirements are not. Instead of 4x xp I'd rather see the gamewide-standard 2x xp and an early recipe intentionally designed to consume a large number of generic resources. How about "6 foot loaf of bread" (a subcombine for a 6' hoagie!) that consumes, say, 200 wheat?



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